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Shadowrun RPG => Magic and the Planes => Topic started by: Retread on February 11, 2006, 01:07:40 PM

Title: Odd Hypothesis Re: Mana Warps...
Post by: Retread on February 11, 2006, 01:07:40 PM
and Virtuoso pieces.

If you shuttled a Virtuoso piece onto the moon, and let it sit there in the rating 8 mana warp, would the object be destroyed, regardless of it being an actual magical object, or would it allow anyone aspected towards it actually cast spells safely in the warp? Makes ya wonder.
Title: Re:Odd Hypothesis Re: Mana Warps...
Post by: kv on February 12, 2006, 11:04:11 AM
I thought Space was a Level 8 Mana Warp, and the Moon was slightly better- or is space Level 10, and the moon an 8?

  -kv
Title: Re:Odd Hypothesis Re: Mana Warps...
Post by: ROOTless on February 12, 2006, 12:45:53 PM
space is 10.
The moon, I'm not so sure about, 8 is likely.
Title: Re:Odd Hypothesis Re: Mana Warps...
Post by: Retread on February 12, 2006, 01:23:48 PM
Luna is a level 8 mana warp, which is hypothesized to either be that it is either a chunk of the earth, or it's general use as a deity and symbol which aspects it with mana. Just read Target: Wastelands and rating 8 was listed for the Moon's Mana warp. Which might imply that there are moon bases inside the moon that might only be a rating 6 or less, and if they manage to drag it down to 5, then you might see some successful terraforming via ritual magic links.
Title: Re:Odd Hypothesis Re: Mana Warps...
Post by: AJStarhiker on February 12, 2006, 02:29:33 PM
That could be interesting
Title: Re:Odd Hypothesis Re: Mana Warps...
Post by: Ruski on February 12, 2006, 09:05:28 PM
you'd have to find quite a daredevil to try to do something magical in that enviroment.

-RuskIFace the Pirate
Title: Re:Odd Hypothesis Re: Mana Warps...
Post by: Retread on February 12, 2006, 09:14:03 PM
Aye, but the reward could be very interesting to say the least. I mean when you see Shadowrun 2100, then there would be a moon colony with it's own strange aspected moon mana, and such.
Title: Re:Odd Hypothesis Re: Mana Warps...
Post by: Gabriel on February 13, 2006, 06:11:50 AM
Let's hope it doesn't get THAT far. Personally, I wans to know what the Background Count is of Io. Underwater seas mean life. Life means mana. Would be interesting.

Gabriel
Title: Re:Odd Hypothesis Re: Mana Warps...
Post by: Ruski on February 13, 2006, 08:14:43 AM
getting an aspected magician all the way out to IO could be tough...

and who's to say if the mana there would be compatable to what you've learned earthside?

-RuskiFace the Pirate
Title: Re:Odd Hypothesis Re: Mana Warps...
Post by: Gabriel on February 13, 2006, 09:43:06 AM
Good point, but I still wonder about it.

Gabriel
Title: Re:Odd Hypothesis Re: Mana Warps...
Post by: Ruski on February 13, 2006, 09:53:01 AM
I suppose you could knock them out so they wouldn't be astrally questing or anything while in coma land on the trip out there...

I still think the first one you sent would explode or have no mana contact... too bad you can't just ask the laughing man what it's like to go for a period without mana...

-RuskiFace the Pirate
Title: Re:Odd Hypothesis Re: Mana Warps...
Post by: Gabriel on February 13, 2006, 11:54:52 AM
:::grumble, grumble,grumble::: Immortal elves... :::Grumble, Grumbel, Grumble:::

Gabriel
Title: Re:Odd Hypothesis Re: Mana Warps...
Post by: Ruski on February 13, 2006, 01:13:30 PM
hmm... I guess you could snail-mail an elf to IO.

they'd live long enough to survive the trip.

-RuskiFace the Pirate
Title: Re:Odd Hypothesis Re: Mana Warps...
Post by: Gabriel on February 14, 2006, 05:24:52 AM
If they had enough life-support equipment and didn't mind 10 years of boredom.

Gabriel
Title: Re:Odd Hypothesis Re: Mana Warps...
Post by: Retread on February 14, 2006, 07:00:43 AM
It's not Io that has the suspected life, you're thinking of Europa.
Title: Re:Odd Hypothesis Re: Mana Warps...
Post by: Gabriel on February 14, 2006, 07:08:21 AM
Ah, that's right. Thanks.

Gabriel
Title: Re:Odd Hypothesis Re: Mana Warps...
Post by: Ruski on February 14, 2006, 09:23:57 AM
We could send a couple to IO too... just for kicks and giggles.

-RuskiFace the Pirate
Title: Re:Odd Hypothesis Re: Mana Warps...
Post by: kv on February 14, 2006, 11:48:37 AM
mostly thier kicks and our giggles, though.

 ;D

  -kv
Title: Re:Odd Hypothesis Re: Mana Warps...
Post by: Ruski on February 14, 2006, 01:50:55 PM
well, if they were all magic like; they should have seen it coming.

-RuskiFace the Pirate
Title: Re:Odd Hypothesis Re: Mana Warps...
Post by: Retread on February 14, 2006, 01:59:29 PM
Good luck, I don't fancy subduing a 15th Grade Adept
Title: Re:Odd Hypothesis Re: Mana Warps...
Post by: Ruski on February 14, 2006, 02:04:34 PM
that's why you hire the social adept to talk em' into it.

-RuskiFace the Pirate
Title: Re:Odd Hypothesis Re: Mana Warps...
Post by: Retread on February 14, 2006, 02:12:14 PM
What's to say some of those elves weren't Troubadours in the 4th world?
Title: Re:Odd Hypothesis Re: Mana Warps...
Post by: Curris on March 02, 2006, 07:42:00 AM
On that topic, I wonder what the mana warp level is on the surface and in the center of the Sun.

(Assuming we have some tech or magic that would allow survival there (At least temporarily))

Think about it. Mana comes from life and vice versa.

The Sun is the ultimate source of energy not just for Earth, but the whole solar system and some other celestial neighbors. If the Sun isn't a huge ball of mana, I will eat my familiar. . .
Title: Re:Odd Hypothesis Re: Mana Warps...
Post by: Ruski on March 02, 2006, 08:01:50 AM
*shrug* how much mana is in hydrogen?

-Ruski
Title: Re:Odd Hypothesis Re: Mana Warps...
Post by: Gabriel on March 03, 2006, 06:15:06 AM
If the Sun isn't a huge ball of mana, I will eat my familiar. . .

Does your familiar taste like chicken???? ;)

Gabriel
Title: Re:Odd Hypothesis Re: Mana Warps...
Post by: Curris on March 03, 2006, 07:29:03 AM
Nah, more like chicken flavored soy-substitute. Unless NERPS grabbed my familiar. . .

Then it's sugar-boosted, vodka marinated, with a chewy chocolate center. . . . Mmmm, chocolate.
Title: Re:Odd Hypothesis Re: Mana Warps...
Post by: Ruski on March 03, 2006, 08:08:49 AM
Yea... NERPS is the best flavor.

-RuskiFace the Pirate
Title: Re:Odd Hypothesis Re: Mana Warps...
Post by: Gabriel on March 03, 2006, 08:15:11 AM
LOL, Fried chicken with a chocolate center. I wonder why none of us cajuns have tried that yet??? And I'm talking about the region that brought you the deep-fried Twinkie.

Gabriel
Title: Re:Odd Hypothesis Re: Mana Warps...
Post by: AJStarhiker on March 03, 2006, 08:42:49 AM
I prefer codfish soaked in lye, then boiled, myself.  About the consistency of Jello, just watch out for the cartiledge.
Title: Re:Odd Hypothesis Re: Mana Warps...
Post by: Gabriel on March 03, 2006, 08:44:05 AM
 :crazy:

Gabriel
Title: Re:Odd Hypothesis Re: Mana Warps...
Post by: Ruski on March 03, 2006, 08:47:32 AM
wouldn't that be poisenous?

-RuskiFace the Pirate
Title: Re:Odd Hypothesis Re: Mana Warps...
Post by: AJStarhiker on March 03, 2006, 08:56:10 AM
We call it lutefisk.  It's sort of local to Minnesota/North Dakota. (Mostly a Norwegian-American thing).
Title: Re:Odd Hypothesis Re: Mana Warps...
Post by: Ruski on March 03, 2006, 09:02:09 AM
I'm a norwegean-american... and that still sounds gross.

-RuskiFace the Pirate
Title: Re:Odd Hypothesis Re: Mana Warps...
Post by: kv on March 03, 2006, 09:21:25 AM
Yeah, I'd have to side with Ruski and Gabe on that one.

 :crazy:

  -kv
Title: Re:Odd Hypothesis Re: Mana Warps...
Post by: Ruski on March 03, 2006, 09:23:56 AM
Cringla is awsome though.

-Ruski
Title: Re:Odd Hypothesis Re: Mana Warps...
Post by: kv on March 03, 2006, 10:23:14 AM
Cringla is not boiled lutefish, though.

Cringla (Kringla?) is tasty.

   -kv
Title: Re:Odd Hypothesis Re: Mana Warps...
Post by: AJStarhiker on March 03, 2006, 10:31:57 AM
*shrugs* Haven't heard of it killing anyone unless in a joke.  Gotta watch out for fishbones, though.
Title: Re:Odd Hypothesis Re: Mana Warps...
Post by: Gabriel on March 03, 2006, 10:54:52 AM
We call it lutefisk.

Just beware of the man with the terrible smell. He'll burn down your church if your not lookin'.

Gabriel

PS - +1 Karma for anyone who can name that reference.
Title: Re:Odd Hypothesis Re: Mana Warps...
Post by: ROOTless on March 03, 2006, 12:04:55 PM
Cringla is not boiled lutefish, though.

Cringla (Kringla?) is tasty.

If it is what I think it is, it's a sort of pastry, correct?
Title: Re:Odd Hypothesis Re: Mana Warps...
Post by: AJStarhiker on March 03, 2006, 12:19:22 PM
Yep.  And yes, it is very tasty
Title: Re:Odd Hypothesis Re: Mana Warps...
Post by: Ruski on March 03, 2006, 12:19:35 PM
yup! a quite tasty one.

no Uffda about it.

-RuskiFace the Pirate
Title: Re:Odd Hypothesis Re: Mana Warps...
Post by: ROOTless on March 03, 2006, 12:27:26 PM
lol, it's spelled differently than I'm used to, but it's the same word in my native language.

Kringle.
Title: Re:Odd Hypothesis Re: Mana Warps...
Post by: Ruski on March 03, 2006, 12:52:26 PM
I spell every word diffrently, no matter what language it originated from.

LOL

most of thoes words i've never seen writen, just heard it tossed arround the grandparrents house.

-RuskiFace the Pirate
Title: Re:Odd Hypothesis Re: Mana Warps...
Post by: Curris on March 03, 2006, 08:56:01 PM

Just beware of the man with the terrible smell. He'll burn down your church if your not lookin'.

Gabriel

PS - +1 Karma for anyone who can name that reference.

Since Yahoo search has failed me, I vote that that is in reference to the TrashCan Man, of Stephen King's The Stand

Wrong I know. . . but if I closest without going over. . .
Title: Re:Odd Hypothesis Re: Mana Warps...
Post by: Gabriel on March 06, 2006, 01:15:27 PM
Curris, curris, curris, not nearly redneck enough for that answer. ;)

Gabriel
Title: Re:Odd Hypothesis Re: Mana Warps...
Post by: Ruski on March 06, 2006, 02:42:46 PM
hmm... must be from your favorite film 'deliverance'

LOL

-RuskiFace the PIrate
Title: Re:Odd Hypothesis Re: Mana Warps...
Post by: Gabriel on March 07, 2006, 10:19:47 AM
Ok, since no on e got it, it was from King of the Hill. Then new preacher,a woman from Wisconsin, brings a plate of Lutefisk (or however you spell that) to the church picnic and Bobby eats it all with disasterous consequences.

Gabriel
Title: Re:Odd Hypothesis Re: Mana Warps...
Post by: ROOTless on March 07, 2006, 10:27:03 AM
OK, new one for you.

Quote
Topic , people.
Title: Re:Odd Hypothesis Re: Mana Warps...
Post by: Gabriel on March 07, 2006, 10:28:34 AM
Oh come on ROOTless, you can't tell me that that lutefisk stuff isn't considered a mana warp. That drek sounds NASTY!!!!

Gabriel
Title: Re:Odd Hypothesis Re: Mana Warps...
Post by: AJStarhiker on March 07, 2006, 10:46:08 AM
Gabriel, yeah, you got the right spelling.  And it's not as bad as it sounds.
Title: Re:Odd Hypothesis Re: Mana Warps...
Post by: Ruski on March 07, 2006, 11:09:06 AM
well, monkey brains probibly tastes just fine... but it sounds bad enough that I'm afraid to try it..

plus, the mana warp caused by killing thousands of monkeys to eat their brains would probibly cause a warp of some kind.

-Ruski
Title: Re:Odd Hypothesis Re: Mana Warps...
Post by: Gabriel on March 07, 2006, 11:49:04 AM
Gabriel, yeah, you got the right spelling.  And it's not as bad as it sounds.

Well, it sounds pretty damn nasty. :crazy:

Gabriel
Title: Re:Odd Hypothesis Re: Mana Warps...
Post by: Retread on March 09, 2006, 02:13:37 PM
The sun may not directly be "mana" as mana is omnipresent. However, it provides a positive "charge" to the mana, making it usable. However, this isn't enough for us fleshy types, as our auras are not used to cosmic radiation and rather need the psycho-filtered variety of mana produced by life and emotion. One might fathom that certain Dracoforms may be able to manipulate the mana charge from natural radiation, but even then, it's not inherently healthy for them to do so, I suspect.

I don't recommend trying to astrally project into a fusion reactor any time soon...
Title: Re:Odd Hypothesis Re: Mana Warps...
Post by: Ruski on March 09, 2006, 03:56:47 PM
but if you do feel like doing it, let us know. we'll send the camera crews over to film it.

-RuskiFace the Pirate
Title: Re:Odd Hypothesis Re: Mana Warps...
Post by: Retread on March 09, 2006, 04:42:40 PM
The camera eh? So, you just film somebody going into a trance, then a moment later, dying?
Title: Re:Odd Hypothesis Re: Mana Warps...
Post by: Ruski on March 09, 2006, 05:01:06 PM
*shrug* perhaps they'd explode or somethign.

-Ruski
Title: Re:Odd Hypothesis Re: Mana Warps...
Post by: Curris on March 09, 2006, 09:51:43 PM
I don't recommend trying to astrally project into a fusion reactor any time soon...

Check that off the Tourist attraction list. . .

"Don't head into the light!"
"I can't help it. . . It's so beautiful. . ."

I have visions of CAS redneck mages astrally perceving other mages and spirits fly into their "bug zapper" whilst drinking beer, and resting in rocking chairs on their porches. . .

That's what we need to invent. An astral camera!
'Course then the corps have a new way to spy on visitors. . .
Title: Re:Odd Hypothesis Re: Mana Warps...
Post by: Gabriel on March 10, 2006, 06:31:05 AM
Makes you wonder how the cops can I.D. you astrally and have it stand up in court, doesn't it?? How do you have evidence if others can't see and catalogue it?

Gabriel
Title: Re:Odd Hypothesis Re: Mana Warps...
Post by: Ruski on March 10, 2006, 07:47:24 AM
I don't think they try to take you to court on thoes counts. they just drop gaurdian elementals on your lap if they catch you at it.

-RuskiFace the Pirate

you know, if you got some of thoes dual-active bacteria, I bet you could monitor their reactions and get a real world relavance to what was going on arround them...

Title: Re:Odd Hypothesis Re: Mana Warps...
Post by: Retread on March 10, 2006, 09:45:23 AM
There is an astral camera, actually. In SOTA '64  they created a camera that uses a special bio-film to capture an image. However, it's like those old-fashioned cameras where the image takes some time to actually burn, so you're probably not going to get a good image of something that moves.
Title: Re:Odd Hypothesis Re: Mana Warps...
Post by: Curris on March 10, 2006, 10:18:32 AM
And most (non-manifested) astral entities move at the speed of thought, so . . . good luck.
Title: Re:Odd Hypothesis Re: Mana Warps...
Post by: Ruski on March 10, 2006, 10:29:21 AM
Hmm... well, if they can get still-frame, it would stand to reason they could update the process, and speed it up.

soon, we'll be seeing the astral sunglasses for sell next to the NERPS.

-RuskiFace the Pirate
Title: Re:Odd Hypothesis Re: Mana Warps...
Post by: Gabriel on March 10, 2006, 01:11:01 PM
And we're back to the Astral Window Sunglasses. I'd buy a pair of those.

Gabriel
Title: Re:Odd Hypothesis Re: Mana Warps...
Post by: Ruski on March 10, 2006, 01:34:33 PM
most shadowrunners would. despite the attention a constantly on astral device would attract.

-RuskiFace the Pirate
Title: Re:Odd Hypothesis Re: Mana Warps...
Post by: Retread on March 10, 2006, 02:17:53 PM
Well, you could always do some wicked Feng Shui and make the area into an Astral Shallow...
Title: Re:Odd Hypothesis Re: Mana Warps...
Post by: Ruski on March 10, 2006, 03:06:24 PM
I'm just saying, that a buncha runners all wearing the glasses in an area where seeing into the astral would be benificial, would also make them a target in that same enviroment.

be carefull that when you stare into the void... that the void also stares into you...

-RuskiFace the Pirate
Title: Re:Odd Hypothesis Re: Mana Warps...
Post by: kv on March 10, 2006, 08:50:09 PM
Ooh, they could be like those cool x-ray glasses from the 50s!

The ones that didn't even work, but used polarized lenses to jack up your vision!

   -kv
Title: Re:Odd Hypothesis Re: Mana Warps...
Post by: Retread on March 10, 2006, 11:43:44 PM
I don't know about you, but I really don't want X-rays bombarding my eyes, you know...