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Shadowrun RPG => Stories of the Shadows => Topic started by: Zone on February 09, 2007, 10:27:19 AM

Title: Excerpts
Post by: Zone on February 09, 2007, 10:27:19 AM
more to come later... As always, opinion and critiques welcome.

Title: Re:Excerpts
Post by: Poison on February 20, 2007, 01:18:02 AM
Nice story.  I look forward to hearing more about Barge and Little Red  :)
Title: Re:Excerpts
Post by: kv on February 20, 2007, 09:51:19 PM
Yeah, that was bad-ass. Are we going to get to read more about them anytime soon?

I wouldn't mind knowing a little more about Red or Barge sometime soon.

  -kv
Title: Re:Excerpts
Post by: Nike Shox on February 22, 2007, 02:56:20 PM
That's a really good story  :)
Title: Re:Excerpts
Post by: Zone on February 23, 2007, 07:29:07 AM
Its just one scene in a much longer work.  A work in progress.

Once I have it done, I'm planning on creating (having created ) a site for the whole novel.  I'll give you guys the password when its up.  

In the mean time, I'll change this scene out when I have something new to show you...

I love Barge. He's a great support character.  Wait until you meet his cousin....
Title: Re:Excerpts
Post by: Nike Shox on February 23, 2007, 03:27:58 PM
That's awesome
Title: Re:Excerpts
Post by: BornKrazi on February 23, 2007, 05:26:26 PM
Something about Sublime playing in my ear that made that story even better, or perhaps it was just that good to begin with, but I enjoyed it!
Title: Re:Excerpts
Post by: Nike Shox on February 26, 2007, 04:46:53 PM
I believe it was that damn good to begin with,  ;D
Title: Re:Excerpts
Post by: Zone on February 27, 2007, 12:00:18 PM
Aw , shucks.  ;)

Now I have to finish up the next excerpt for y'all.

Let me know if there are crits as well.  Is this something about on par with SR novels that you've actually purchsed?
Title: Re:Excerpts
Post by: BornKrazi on February 27, 2007, 12:13:37 PM
For the most part, it depends on what author you read from.  Some read like children's and some I have to read with a dictionary next to me.  But I much prefer something with your simplicity...
Title: Re:Excerpts
Post by: kv on February 27, 2007, 12:56:58 PM
I'm not a big fan of pedantics, so I like your easy style of writing.

No critic here- and I can be pretty critical of things I don't like.

  -kv
Title: Re:Excerpts
Post by: Nike Shox on March 02, 2007, 08:07:03 AM
Hey Zone when are you gonna finish your nexy excerpt? ;)
Title: Re:Excerpts
Post by: Zone on March 02, 2007, 10:04:56 AM
I'll see if I can manage something this weekend...
Title: Re:Excerpts
Post by: Zone on March 03, 2007, 10:01:30 AM
Okay, go back to the OP - it is now different.  Crane is an elf sami.
Title: Re:Excerpts
Post by: BornKrazi on March 03, 2007, 11:13:22 AM
Pretty good...
Title: Re:Excerpts
Post by: kv on March 03, 2007, 11:24:15 AM
So this is backstory, from before little Red saves Barge?

Or does the guy just get kidnapped a lot? ;D

  -kv
Title: Re:Excerpts
Post by: Nike Shox on March 03, 2007, 12:20:54 PM
It was good it had me entertained...lol.
Title: Re:Excerpts
Post by: Zone on March 04, 2007, 09:48:39 AM
Backstory Kid.  You generally only get one chance to kidnap Barge...
Title: Re:Excerpts
Post by: kv on March 04, 2007, 10:17:33 AM
Yeah, it was just a funny thought that occured to me, that maybe Barge is just a walking kidnap victim or something. ;D It would be kind of ironic, to have one set of friends spring you, only to be kidnapped by someone else.

  -kv
Title: Re:Excerpts
Post by: Zone on March 04, 2007, 10:30:09 AM
Go . New Except in the OP slot  ;)
Title: Re:Excerpts
Post by: BornKrazi on March 04, 2007, 02:33:51 PM
That was great...I take it she was a weasel shaman?
Title: Re:Excerpts
Post by: Curris on March 04, 2007, 11:31:27 PM
I like the way the vision scene is done. With my own writing, I tend to over-detail, which slows the reading down to boring. But your style flows right on through. I won't say that you skip details, because your story seems richer without them. It keeps magic (and magic herbs) mysterious and lets the imagination go.

In addition, it seems real. Red just accepts what Standing in Wind Woman can do. It's a trait of hers, no big deal. But it's refreshing to see that magic is still news to some people.

Well done, I say. Worthy of a professionally published novel.
Title: Re:Excerpts
Post by: kv on March 05, 2007, 02:47:19 PM
Yeah, it's incredibly well written. I know of several books off the top of my head that aren't that well written. Have you submitted anything to be published? I mean, WizKids still publishes the stories as text in thier books. I'm betting they could use something awesome like that without too much trouble or fuss.

  -kv
Title: Re:Excerpts
Post by: Zone on March 07, 2007, 09:42:52 AM
Thanks for the ego boost guys.  I once looked into getting this story published, but they have a very mapped out do and don't and where they want things to go in their world.  Basically it seems like a closed set.  So probably I'll just web publish this when its done and let a few folks in to read it.  I'll let you know when tickets become availble  ;D

BTW the weasle is Ray's animal guide, not Stands in the Wind's - she's one of the bird shamans but I haven't decided which.  And the Cheyenne language used  really is Cheynne.
Title: Re:Excerpts
Post by: kv on March 07, 2007, 11:18:08 AM
That's impressive... I've never actually learned a new language to write something... although I do usually do accents of characters in my games.

  -kv
Title: Re:Excerpts
Post by: Zone on March 07, 2007, 01:46:59 PM
Notice I don't try any complex sentences, just names and short direction  ;)
Title: Re:Excerpts
Post by: Curris on March 07, 2007, 07:30:52 PM
I dabble in languages for fun. Although I usually don't commit to learning all of it.

Usually dead/obscure languages have more appeal to me.

I can read/write Runic alphabet (based on traditional Celtic druidic runes.)

Read/Write/ somewhat speak Gargish (created language based on an Arabic font script.)

Both of those I learned from the Ultima Series of videogames.

I also know some Spanish, Russian, Japanese, Esperanto, and Italian. Mostly common phrases, basic sentence structure. I need more vocabulary and memorization.

And like three words in Klingon. I can't pronounce them, but I recognize them when I here them, which is like never.

And all that knowledge makes it confusing to learn an actual language. . .  ::)
Title: Re:Excerpts
Post by: Zone on March 08, 2007, 12:17:17 PM
New excerpt....


For my own amusement, for writing or general knowlege I have looked into Russian, Cheyenne, Italian, Hebrew, Spanish, and Cantonese among others, and I think I now can say shit in about 7 different languages...
Title: Re:Excerpts
Post by: kv on March 08, 2007, 12:51:37 PM
I tried to learn chinese, but I didn't have the time to put into it to really learn the nuances, so I got frustrated with it.

I've learned bits of spanish, russian, french, itallian, german, samoan, tongan, maori, and portugese. Mostly for my own entertainment, but at one point I spoke tongan, samoan, and spanish well enough to communicate in them. Not so anymore, but it was fun while it lasted.

I love the new excerpt- I wish my dates would go that well!
My fiance freaks out every time we get in a gunfight!

  -kv
Title: Re:Excerpts
Post by: Nike Shox on March 08, 2007, 01:49:31 PM
I would imagine chinese would be hard to learn, Is it?
Title: Re:Excerpts
Post by: ROOTless on March 08, 2007, 02:26:17 PM
I can read/write Runic alphabet (based on traditional Celtic druidic runes.)
That would be Ogham, correct? I picked that up while researching for my Ars Magica saga in Ireland.
Title: Re:Excerpts
Post by: BornKrazi on March 08, 2007, 06:57:47 PM
I liked that one the best...it looks like Red found his perfect lady...
Title: Re:Excerpts
Post by: Curris on March 08, 2007, 10:40:07 PM
I can read/write Runic alphabet (based on traditional Celtic druidic runes.)
That would be Ogham, correct? I picked that up while researching for my Ars Magica saga in Ireland.

Yes, that would be one name for it.
Title: Re:Excerpts
Post by: Zone on March 09, 2007, 07:17:17 AM
I would imagine chinese would be hard to learn, Is it?

Damn difficult. Its tonal so the word  yi can mean 14 different things depending on how you pronounce it.  If you're going to learn a language its easier if it isn't a tonal language for damn sure.


Lily is cool isn't she?  I think I'll be letting her have a boyfriend; I like the whole Cheyenne/Cantonese connection...
Title: Re:Excerpts
Post by: Curris on March 09, 2007, 06:32:07 PM
For difficult languages look no further than Papua New Guinea. It has about 800+ langauges Info (http://www.pnglanguages.org/pacific/png/index.asp)

Much to learn. All different.

And Navajo. I've heard that if you weren't born learning Navajo, you could never learn it. . . It is both tonal, logic-parsed, and has contextual grammar. One phrase could have about 200 meanings depending if you raised your voice, lowered it, dragged a vowel, whatever. Needless to say, I have no knowledge in it.
Title: Re:Excerpts
Post by: Curris on March 09, 2007, 06:44:59 PM
And about your latest Excerpt. Very nice. Kinda a shame how even love can be dangerous in the sixth world. . .

At least Red and Lily seemed to hit it off. Good luck to them!
Title: Re:Excerpts
Post by: Nike Shox on March 11, 2007, 04:17:29 PM
yes I think Lily is cool. You should hook her up wit a man, lol 8)
Title: Re:Excerpts
Post by: Zone on March 23, 2007, 10:00:19 AM
New post.  
Title: Re:Excerpts
Post by: kv on March 23, 2007, 01:40:33 PM
Wait... so who is Ray?

  -kv
Title: Re:Excerpts
Post by: Zone on March 24, 2007, 06:22:24 AM
He's the same guy we took to see the shaman last excerpt.  The  older more world weary partner.

I'm sorry about any confusion.  It is tough reading out of sequence like this but I'm posting the bits that I'm polishing/editing at the moment.  When its done I promise it'll make a lot of sense.
Title: Re:Excerpts
Post by: BornKrazi on March 24, 2007, 09:00:36 AM
Well that was good, but short.
Title: Re:Excerpts
Post by: Zone on March 29, 2007, 11:53:21 AM
Cookie fortunes are short, my stuff is concise ;)

Try the new offering...
Title: Re:Excerpts
Post by: kv on March 29, 2007, 12:25:05 PM
I like Ray as a character. Is he the gruff older Shadowrunner type? Or the type who just survives at any cost?

  -kv
Title: Re:Excerpts
Post by: Zone on March 30, 2007, 09:50:22 AM
A bit of both.  He's mid to late thirties, ex military, ex lonestar, no alligiences...unless he calls you friend - then he walks through blood to back you.  Red's a bit more idealistic but he has the same loyalty gene.
Title: Re:Excerpts
Post by: Zone on April 20, 2007, 09:58:21 AM
More at the top....
Title: Re:Excerpts
Post by: Curris on April 20, 2007, 03:26:29 PM
Interesting Social dynamics. . . Red and Spyder don't get along too well. It will be interesting to see if they grown together or come to blows. . .
Title: Re:Excerpts
Post by: Zone on April 23, 2007, 05:00:35 PM
Ah, but he backs her in yet another situation with the team.  Dynamics are everything for the stressed out runner team...
Title: Re:Excerpts
Post by: Zone on July 19, 2007, 09:56:12 AM
Sorry this has fallen off. I hope to get writing again once the at home computer is up and running. We're planning on trading in the old hardware and doing a big update soon, then Red and Ray will ride again.
Title: Re:Excerpts
Post by: Zone on August 04, 2007, 08:11:07 AM
Trying to get going again - new post
Title: Re:Excerpts
Post by: kv on August 05, 2007, 10:49:59 AM
I like your description of his situational awareness- you manage to cover all the angles and make Red sound like a pro, rather than like you're quoting some TV show about military ops.

I also like the mom-n-pop food place description. I've eaten in many storefronts like that.

  -kv
Title: Re:Excerpts
Post by: Zone on August 08, 2007, 08:56:10 AM
Thanks :)  The grungy diner is based on a true rat trap...
Title: Re: Excerpts
Post by: Zone on January 16, 2008, 08:03:29 AM
Sorry about the long hiatus.  There's a snappy newly edited post in the op slot if anyone is interested.
Title: Re: Excerpts
Post by: kv on January 21, 2008, 04:36:32 PM
The first post for this thread? All I see is the one with Red saving the troll strapped to a gurney.

I seem to remember reading that one before. Are the new excerpts in another thread? I remember that it doesn't pop up as a new post, because you edit the old post to remove the old one and put up the new one.

Links for us peoples?

  -kv
Title: Re: Excerpts
Post by: Zone on January 23, 2008, 08:39:40 AM
Yeah that's it.  I just cut it down and tweaked it a bit to have it read snappier.  Its a fight scene and I didn't want it to drag.  Apologies for posting a repeat.  Writers are weird when it comes to editing :)
Title: Re: Excerpts
Post by: kv on January 24, 2008, 12:47:38 PM
Oh, okay, I thought I had just lost the thread.

Okay, the intro for Red sneaking around is different too, isn't it? I don't remember him getting garoutted before, but it has been a while since I read it.

  -kv
Title: Re: Excerpts
Post by: Zone on January 25, 2008, 07:18:18 AM
I just wanted him to be the super physad that he ought to be but not untouchable.  He takes his ouchies like a man and still wins in the end ;)  I'll now go post a new one in the OP slot...
Title: Re: Excerpts
Post by: Zone on April 02, 2008, 08:22:30 AM
New scene in the OP slot if anyone ins interested.
Title: Re: Excerpts
Post by: kv on April 02, 2008, 09:42:15 AM
This is cool- I like how you get to see the interaction between characters- Red and his contact, Red and his co-runners. Very slight differences in the way he talks with each group, but very cool.

  -kv
Title: Re: Excerpts
Post by: Zone on April 03, 2008, 08:52:34 AM
Is that bad?  Doesn't everyone have their pro persona who is different from their at home persona.  I know at work I speak to strangers very differently than I deal with friends. 
Title: Re: Excerpts
Post by: kv on April 03, 2008, 10:36:48 AM
No, it's awesome- it's just something you don't see a lot of writers do. Usually heroes are pretty one-dimensional, and they're pursuing something so single-mindedly that they don't have room for anything else.

It was a clever bit of writing, and I just wanted to compliment you on it.

  -kv
Title: Re: Excerpts
Post by: Zone on April 07, 2008, 07:21:05 AM
Aw, shucks.  Now I'll have to get on the ball and get another bit up for you.... :)
Title: Re: Excerpts
Post by: Zone on April 08, 2009, 09:19:40 AM
The rest of the story is secret 8)