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General => Technoweenies => Topic started by: BornKrazi on April 29, 2007, 11:53:49 PM

Title: iPods
Post by: BornKrazi on April 29, 2007, 11:53:49 PM
So are they really worth all the hype?

This is not meant to be a long debate over whose is better, or anything like that.  Just curious to what my fellow pubbers have to think about these things.
Title: Re:iPods
Post by: Curris on April 30, 2007, 08:45:49 AM
I wanted one about six years ago, but was too poor. Now I have money, but I figure that I'm better suited to buying a laptop. I can play music on those too.

As for my car, I have a CD played added via a tape deck adapter.

Summary, would be nice to have one, but not critical. If you have something that works, don't bother. Says me.
Title: Re:iPods
Post by: Nike Shox on April 30, 2007, 10:08:48 AM
I honestly have no desire for one, lol......I llike your
s cause it's green.. ;)
Title: Re:iPods
Post by: BornKrazi on April 30, 2007, 10:46:25 AM
I like mine too...I told you I'd try to get you the pink one.

Well I agree with you Curris.  I have both the laptop and the cd player.  I just liked the idea of one as far as portable music.  Such as if I'm with my parents and can't stand to listen to their music...or if I ever get on another plane, I'd probably use it then too.  Or if I just simply wanna take a shit and listen to some tunes...
Title: Re:iPods
Post by: kv on April 30, 2007, 11:51:35 AM
I've bought an iPod for an ex-girlfriend, and she told me she thought it was too great of a gift, and she didn't want it when I got it, but refused to give it to me when we broke up. Beeyotch.

Anyway, Elena has gotten a couple now, and they are pretty handy little devices. What I like the most about them is that you can set up you entire music library on one. So her irish tunes, my 90s rock, some country, and whatever else we have in common (in this case, Ella Fitzgerald and Louis Armstrong), and then whatever you're in the mood to hear- that's the music that you have access to. No changing CDs, no turning on your laptop, and having to worry about the battery dying or going into sleep mode (she has the ipod, so I have to use my laptop, and I know it's foibles well).

They're pretty sturdy, they have a good battery life, and they're better than a radio tuner. Why listen to the radio and all the commercials out there when you can just listen to your own music?

  -kv
Title: Re:iPods
Post by: BornKrazi on April 30, 2007, 02:16:39 PM
I agree as well.  I haven't set mine up yet, but I'm building my music library on the computer now, and I can't wait to be able have access to all those songs at the touch of a button.  Although I need to verify the amount of space mine has.  I believe it's 60GB, I got the Nano.  Although I might be making an upgrade to the video one before long, we'll see...
Title: Re:iPods
Post by: Curris on April 30, 2007, 02:22:08 PM
Or if I just simply wanna take a drek and listen to some tunes...

Theme music for those cinematic moments? Hehe.
Title: Re:iPods
Post by: BornKrazi on April 30, 2007, 02:24:39 PM
Hehe... well I don't subscribe to the paper, nor any magazines.  So I need something to do while I'm in there!
Title: Re:iPods
Post by: kv on April 30, 2007, 04:44:12 PM
Actually, when I'm between books, I bring my laptop in and type while I'm "out-putting."

In fact, I might be doing that right now!!!

The fact of Ipods is that they're handy, and convinient. They don't have any of the RIAA-mandated security features that have made it into some of the other players, and all you need to organize all the music on your computer (no matter where it may be) is a free copy of itunes, which updates itself (still free) as well as software for the ipod (also free).

You can even set itunes on different computers to only upload songs- not to replace any, so that you can have a main computer with all of your music, and another computer or two where you download music if you're needing a specific song or album (we all know how frustrating it is to think "Okay, that's the name of that song. Don't forget it." and then hours later ripping hair out trying to remember what it was.), without any undue fuss.

I'm not a big fan of closed architecture or corporate slickness all packaged up for mass consumption, but even I had to admit that Apple did something good with Ipod.

  -kv
Title: Re:iPods
Post by: BornKrazi on April 30, 2007, 06:37:39 PM
Well that's an issue I have so maybe you can help me walk through it.  I want to upload my songs here, and then upload more songs from a different computer.  But it said something about linkin it to that machine instead of mine and that I would lose the songs I already had on it.
Title: Re:iPods
Post by: Elena V on April 30, 2007, 08:02:32 PM
You can go into iTunes and fiddle with the settings to allow you to manually update your iPod.  I don't remember exactly how, but there's a help section somewhere in the program.  Then you can just click and drag the music from your library to your iPod--and even add new playlists to your iPod and move around the songs that are already on it.
Title: Re:iPods
Post by: BornKrazi on April 30, 2007, 09:20:47 PM
Nice... like I said before I haven't even set this one up yet.  But I had one before (well actually that one wasn't even mine) and I got to play with them a little bit.  I don't know if I wanna download the iTunes program... I use Windows Media Player 11 and it has an option to download one with iTunes as well.  Anybody know if that works just as well?
Title: Re:iPods
Post by: BornKrazi on April 30, 2007, 10:21:00 PM
Okay so I just looked it up online, I either 2, 4, or 8GB on the Nano.  So I guess whenever I hook it up I'll know for sure.  I don't know where I got the 60GB from... maybe I was simply dreaming.

<Edit: I have further learned that I have a 4GB...not enough room for everything, but I can sure the hell try!>
Title: Re:iPods
Post by: BornKrazi on May 03, 2007, 11:41:09 PM
Okay so new question, sorta a Tech Support question.  I just came across an original iPod, one of the 20GB ones.  Only problem is I can't seem to get it to hold a charge, thus I can't get it to turn on so I can see what's up.  Any suggestions?
Title: Re:iPods
Post by: kv on May 04, 2007, 01:37:51 PM
The original iPods had a battery life of about one month longer than the warranty. You might see is someone can drop a new battery in it, because then you get a whole new ipod for the price of some nickel/cadmium.

  -kv
Title: Re:iPods
Post by: BornKrazi on May 04, 2007, 05:55:39 PM
Any ideas where I can start looking?
Title: Re:iPods
Post by: Ingo Monk on May 07, 2007, 02:46:00 PM
Batteries can be found on ebay.

I despise the whole iPod/Apple thing.  I got my wife the Motorola SLVR L7 with iTunes on it.. so in order to put songs on it I had to install iTunes onto my PC.  I had my library set up in a particular way, specifically the MP3 filename containing a lot of info about the song (i.e. Artist - Album - 01 - Song Title.mp3).  iTunes then proceeded to move all my files into one folder (something I had been meaning to get around to) and in the process renamed a bunch of my songs via the ID3 tag.  Since a large chunk didn't have the proper ID3 tags, a bunch of songs became 'Unknown Artist - Unknown Album - Unknown Song Title 01'.  So basically I had to listen to a bunch of songs and try and figure out who the artist is or what the song title was.  After going through a large chunk of the 6GB of songs that got renamed I ended up deleting a bunch.  Feh!

The anti-piracy thing they put it is smart though, an iPod can only be sync'd to one particular install of iTunes at a time.  For example, you sync your iPod to your home PC and copy songs.  You go to your buddy's place and want to get a song from his copy of iTunes, so you sync to his copy (deleting all songs on the iPod at that time) and copy whatever you want from your buddy's iTunes.  Then you go back home and you have to sync your iPod to your home PC again, deleting your buddy's songs off of it.  

Like I said pretty smart since it still allows songs to be shared but not copied (though I did find a way around it).
Title: Re:iPods
Post by: kv on May 07, 2007, 03:42:08 PM
Actually, with one of the newer updates, they got rid of that bug. Sara's iPod is currently set so she can synch with my computer, my laptop, her laptop, and her mom's computer. There's a setting which allows you to only download certain songs from a new computer, so we have that set for all of the computers except one (mine).

I hear you about having to go through the library and re-naming all the songs. What a pain in the ass. I had mine organized by filename (Metallica - One.mp3) and when I imported everything into iTunes, it switched all the titles to the Id3 Tags, which I hadn't set either.

I did discover that while it changes the display to the Id3 tags, it doesn't change the filename, so if you check the settings (to change the tag, for instance) that you can look at the filename and set the ID3 tag accordingly. It's still a lot of work, but not nearly as much as listening to a song and trying to remember artist, album, and track names.

  -kv
Title: Re:iPods
Post by: Ingo Monk on May 07, 2007, 03:53:52 PM
Yeah it's all quite annoying.

I use MediaMonkey now.
Title: Re:iPods
Post by: BornKrazi on May 07, 2007, 03:59:55 PM
Well maybe I'm just weird, but when I first pluged the Nano in the machine (I'm running Vista so I don't know if it's specific for that OS) it read it as a USB storage device.  I was able to open the folder go through the various aspects of it (Calender, Notes, Music, Photos, etc) and was able to simple copy and paste the songs into the music folder.  And jam out according to the file names I have (all my songs are ripped from the actual cd).  Once I installed iTunes it become a mess, so I simply uninstalled it and I'm having no problem.  Maybe a suggestion.  I don't think you'd be able to go around that if you have songs downloaded from iTunes, cuz I don't seem to find the files saved on the computer, so my guess is they simply give you rights to copy it to your ipod instead of actually allowing you to download it.  I dunno, I'm not the most tech savvy person, but I tend to find my way around things.
Title: Re:iPods
Post by: kv on May 07, 2007, 04:08:11 PM
The music downloaded through iTunes is in a seperate folder in the iTunes program directory. It's not exactly hidden, but it's not easy to find, either.

  -kv
Title: Re:iPods
Post by: BornKrazi on May 07, 2007, 04:09:24 PM
*Evil Grin*

Well thank you good sir, cuz I know of a person with loads of great music I'd love to have, and now I know where to look for them at!
Title: Re:iPods
Post by: kv on May 08, 2007, 09:54:08 AM
I'm pretty sure the folder is labelled something deceptive and clever like "Music."

  -kv
Title: Re:iPods
Post by: BornKrazi on May 08, 2007, 11:19:49 AM
LOL  Well I'm gonna have to check it out.  I don't have access to that computer very often,  but I'm thinking maybe this weekend I'll get a chance.