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General => Reviews => Topic started by: Jester on August 16, 2007, 12:27:09 PM
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http://www.apple.com/trailers/paramount/beowulf/large.html
looks intersting
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pssst (http://www.humanities.mcmaster.ca/~beowulf/main.html)
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Yeah, the motion-capture thing is weird. Although apparently Agelina with the weird scaled feet and tail gets nekkid.
-kv
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Angelina and nekid aren't rare
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The link is dead, Jester. :(
Gabriel
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I wonder why...it's the apple movie trailer website
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WHo knows. Did it look cool? And what was this about Anjelina Jolie in it? Is she Grendal's mother or something??
Gabriel
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Yeah, she's supposed to be Grendel's Momma, and then she seduces Beowulf and has his half-demon babies, who further terrorizes ... whoever.
That's what I've heard, anyway. And they're trying to make a big deal about the nudity/sex scene somewhere in there, where a nekkid Jolie-computer model seduces Beowulf. But I don't know. It seems like it would be pretty easy to change, especially in a fully computer-generated movie.
-kv
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Huh a naked Jolie computer simulated body? Were they at least accurate?! :-X
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The teaser trailer leads me to believe ya.
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try here
http://www.apple.com/trailers/paramount/beowulf/
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That looks amazing, and yes I think they were accurate! ::)
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So what? Grendel is supposed to be Beowulf's son in this version? And what's with the wax faces? Asside from taht, it looks pretty damn wiz.
Gabriel
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Well, it's motion capture, but faces are pretty complex things to capture... I think they did body capture, and then spent a lot of time studying the actors and trying to make the faces on the models match... I'm not sure why exactly they wanted to do it... but they did.
-kv
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Perhaps they were just trying to be different? ??? Who knows, but I definitely want to see it.
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echo that
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I wonder if they are going to animate Angelina's naughty bits??? If so, you have your first public-release cyber-porn.
Gabriel
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If by naughty bits, you mean boobs, then yes. From what I can tell, from the hips down she's all scaly and stuff.
Of course, you could be into that sort of thing. ;D
-kv
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I'm not sure if cyber-porn would have the same effect on me, but then again it is Angelina :o
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the nerd who had to animate that musta spooged himself...alot
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:hyper: Probably, who knows he might've acted like a digital pimp to his Geek Squad.
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Actually, from what I've heard, people who make porn usually end up hating it. I remember reading an interview with a young director (I can't remember who, for the life of me) who said that in order to start out and get a credit to his name, he spent a while directing porn. His words, as near as I can remember them, were something like 'it's the most god-awful thing I've ever seen- it took me a year to be able to get an erection again.'
Of course, he probably doesn't pet the snake as much as Gabe does. ;D
-kv
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Jolie is in it? Damn. I can't look at her without thinking somebody got an A in shop class. I know you all drool, but she looks like she got built not born.
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LOL I've never heard that before. And yes I've heard similar Kid_Vid. In fact I believe Spielberg started off doing some porn to get a rep for himself.
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Jolie is proof that if your father is a rich actor, you'll be the very next nepotistic display.
Methinks there are more artificial parts than meets the eye.
-kv
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last time I saw her she was waaaaaay too skinny. Girl needs to eat something
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Jolie is in it? Damn. I can't look at her without thinking somebody got an A in shop class. I know you all drool, but she looks like she got built not born.
And your point would be????
Gabriel
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Just another way the rich get better health care
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Better living through cosmetic surgery? ;D
That reminds me- I watch the show "Beauty and the Geek," and one of the girls on it was talking about her boob job as an investment, because "if you total all the drinks that people are going to buy for me over the years, it'll more than pay for it!"
Oh, the people on that show say such funny things.
-kv
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That quote = vapid.
Gabriel
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The show contains a lot of 'vapid.' It also contains a lot of social awkwardness, which is also kind of fun to watch. I also wince a lot when these super-nerds mention my hobbies over and over. ;D
-kv
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LOL ;D
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hahahaha!
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Wow, I didn't maen to so completely derail this topic. Grendel will have my arse.
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No wonder Beowulf shagged his mother, then. ;)
Gabriel
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Beowulf shagged his mother? Or... Grendel?
Wait... was that a sex comment about Zone's ass?
So... so many retorts... don't know where to go...
-kv
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Is this the point when the scrotum ripping drones come out? :'(
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it all depends on Gabe's reply...
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LOL! Chip truth, chummer. Ah to replace Angelina with Zone.... Half succubus, half scrotum-ripping rigger femenist... I'm all a tingle. :P
Gabriel
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lol, he may be safe on that one. It was actually meant as a compliment
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Well being as Zone doesn't find Angelina as attractive as Gabe, she might take it as an insult :-\
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naaaaa, I think he's ok...this time
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LOL! Chip truth, chummer. Ah to replace Angelina with Zone.... Half succubus, half scrotum-ripping rigger femenist... I'm all a tingle. :P
Gabriel
Half succubus - in your fraggin dreams...oh, wait...
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LOL, ok, ok 3/4 succubus. I was just giving you the benefit of the doubt, Z-Girl. :P
Gabriel
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Ah, to smite or not to smite, that is the question. Whether 'tis nobler...ah frag it!
ZAP!
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And that, Ladies and Gentlemen, is how Gabe worked his way to the top of the heap, and became the negative karma king. ;D
Has anyone heard anything new about Beowuf? Aside from the nekkid controversy, I haven't heard anything new.
-kv
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I don't know if this counts as "buzz" but my girlfriend thinks this looks like drek. And I had to hear about that for 10 minutes too, so there you go.
Gabriel, Hen-Pecked Cyborg
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Doesn't surprise me. I was wondering why there weren't more people (purists) upset that Gaiman re-wrote the story to suit his own devices... although I'm not sure that's common knowledge.
It doesn't look like anything spectacular to me- just a movie made completely of CGI and special effects, rather than just having a bunch of them in the movie.
-kv
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well, as far as the story's concerned, beowulf has been massaged, mutated, ripped apart, and pasted back together again so many times that I'm not sure anyone really cares anymore.
I can remember 3 movies done by small TV networks, and I believe 2 episodes of star trek (one of them voyager, and I think another one played with it to) that relied on beowulf for "window dressing" while doing they're own god damn story.
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Well considering there is no true, unmolested translation of Beowulf, are you really surprised at how much it's been masacred? Even the earliest version of it had some damn monk smearing it with religious dogmatic drek while translating it.
Gabriel
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Of course its been fragged three ways from Sunday - no one wants to have to sit through an epic in the original Old English. Oi!
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The original isn't in old english. The original is in skandinavian. It was just copied by that prick of a monk who just put in whatever he wanted. I don't think anyone has ever seen an original version of Beowulf.
Gabriel
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The only surviving manuscript : "The manuscript dates from the early 11th century, though the poem itself is probably even older. Written in Old English, it tells of a struggle between the hero, Beowulf, and a bloodthirsty monster called Grendel."
"Some scholars still believe 'Beowulf' was composed during the eighth century, some have suggested it may be later, perhaps even contemporary with this manuscript. It's most likely that the poem had no single author, but was handed down by word of mouth, constantly evolving in its retelling."
http://www.bl.uk/onlinegallery/themes/englishlit/beowulflge.html
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Exactly. Thanls for the back-up, Z.
Gabriel
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I never thought the original incarnation of the epic was ever written anyway. Plus Old English really is closer to its anglosaxon origins than any later evolutions. Just look at the manuscript page in the link...
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Oh I know, I'm just saying that there is no such thing as an "original" Beowulf incarnation anymore. And taht the earliest version we can find has already been tampered with unmercifully.
Gabriel
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Saw it last night. Since it officially got release today I don't think anyone knew it was showing on Thursday night. We went to see it and 15 minutes before it started me and the missus were the only 2 people in the biggest screen in the theater. When it started there was less than 10 people in the room.
The movie has 2 versions, 35mm and 3-D. Yes, 3-D, as in wear stupid glasses so a spear looks like it's going to poke you in the eye. It's also playing on IMAX theaters and IMAX 3-D theaters.
The movie itself followed the story 'guideline' I guess you could say, it had Grendel, Grendel's mom, the Thanes, the Gaets, Hrothgar, and of course Beowulf. Apparently though Grendel has really sensitive ears and when the Thanes party in their hall it gets very loud in his cave. This of course makes him mad and instead of going over and asking them to keep it down he goes over and kills everybody. I thought that part was kinda funny.
The movie was made by animating motion capture of the actors. Meaning, that the actors wore skin tight outfits with colored balls attached and acted out each scene while cameras filmed. The wire frames in the computers were then given shells and animated.
And Angelina Jolie looks good ;D ;)
I think the geek in charge of animating Angelina loved his job.
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"I'm sorry, Ms. Jolie, the scene where you eat the bananna didn't capture. Can you do it just one more time?"
-kv
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lol. I saw it also and I thought it was just ok. Something I could have waited for HBO. :zombie: :zombie: 1/2 bobs
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Just okay? My dad wanted to see it, but every theater that they tried to go to was completely sold out opening weekend. Has anyone else seen it?
Jester, without any spoilers, what did you think of the movie? Did the CG make it better or worse? Did they have any characters like the guy from FF:Spirits Within, where you stared at the guy who looked like Ben Affleck, and thought 'that's not Ben Affleck... who is that?'
Did the facial expressions get better since they did the train movie? Did you see that one to compare it to?
Come on people, discuss!
-kv
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the CD was hit or miss. Sometimes it looked cool and sometimes it looked hokie. When they spoke you could tell it was CG. I kept thinking that it really didn't look much better than Shrek. It almost seemed like they spent 1 hour per figure and 8 on angelina.
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Well, if you had a choice of rendering Ray Winstone's "Business" or Angelina's boobies, which one would you choose?
-kv
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lol, good point. It mostly just felt weird. Especially the nekid dude jumpin around
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Wait... he jumps around nekkid? If I wanted to see that, I would go watch "Eastern Promises."
-kv
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Yeah Beowulf is a tad bit more narcissistic than I remember. The beginning is of him talking about himself and getting nekked just cuz he can I guess? They do the 'well placed object' schtick so that his bits and two pieces never show. But that was more CG crack than I bargained for. Made me laugh though how quickly he got nekked when there was a woman that he liked around.
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Yeah, from what I've heard from EVERYONE that's seen it is that this movie blows.
My Dad described it as "watching a video game," and that it was boring to watch without being able to play.
-kv
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honestly, I've seen this, and I liked it. I thought the drama scenes were done very well, hiding the CG within reasonable levels. I think the CG allowed the Action/combat scenes to be more outlandish than a real cast could ever have accomplished. I was sitting through the movie just thinking... wow... this would turn into a kick-ass story for an Exaltedtm game.
and for those who seem to be mis-informed on who is who's daddy, Grendel is Hrothgar's son, and always has been, in most of the versions of this epic that I've seen. The plot in this case was surprisingly sex-related (but with animate Angelina, what else were we really expecting).
I have cooked up a subtitle for this movie: The Queen's Quest for Some Pussy.
Once you watch it, you'll understand why ;)
I can't go into more, without spoilers, but I really enjoyed the film, especially Beowulf's "little" story about "Sea Monsters."
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I saw it as a boot leg at a friends, it was horrible quality, but i still found it good.
....... I couldnt help but wonder what grendel was thinking as he had a naked Beowulf crawling on him... "OH GOD!! THERES SOMETHING POKING MY BACK THERES SOMETHING POKING MY BACK!!!!"