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Title: Welcom to Denver: Character: Kinsey
Post by: bull30548 on December 09, 2011, 10:15:27 PM
Alias: Kinsey
Name: Jon Craig, Martin Wilson, Thomas Bradley, Eric Mathers
Total Karma: 0
Current Karma: 0
Metatype: Human
Height: 5'8
Weight: 155 lbs.
Lifestyle: Middle (2 months)
Sex: Male
Age: 22

Stats:
Body: 3
Agility: 3
Reaction: 4
Strength: 2
Charisma: 3
Intuition: 3
Logic: 3
Willpower: 4
Edge: 2
Essence: 6
Magic: 4
Resonance: 0

Skills:
Pilot Ground Vehicle 3
Assensing 2
Automatics 2
Pistols 3
Sorcery Skill Group 3
Conjuring Skill Group 3
Computer 3
Data Search 2
Dodge 3
Perception 2
(+128)

Knowledge (+18)
Local Mages 2
Talismonger 2
Magical Security 3
Magic Theory 2
Wiz Gangs 3

English N
Latin 3
(+12)

Spells/Cyberware:
Magic:
Mana bolt
Mana ball
Lightning bolt
Physical Barrier
Stun ball
(+15)

Gear:
Telescoping Staff (100¥)
Yamaha Pulsar (150¥)
Cavalier Scout (750¥) (Smartlink)
Beretta 101T (400¥) (Smartlink)
Ares Predator IV (350¥)
FN 5-7C (1200¥) (Smartlink)
HK 227-X (800¥)
Armor Clothing (x5) (2500¥)
Greatcoat Line (x2) (6000¥)
Form-fitting Body Armor (Full body suit) (x3) (4800¥)
Bike Racing Armor (w/ Helmet) (x3) (2100¥)
Hermes Ikon (3000¥)
Iris Orb OS (1000¥)
(backup Commlink)
Renraku Sensei (1000¥)
Iris Orb  OS (1000¥)
AR Gloves (250¥)
Sim Module (100¥)
Sub vocal  Microphone (50¥)
Contact Lenses (Rating 3) [Image Link, Smartlink] (675¥)
Earbuds (Rating 3) [Audio Enhancement (Rating 3) Sound Filter(Rating 3), Spatial Recognizer] (930¥)
Fake SIN (Rating 4) (x4) (16000¥)
Magical Lodge (Force 6) (3000¥)
Fake License (spell casting (x4), conceal carry (x4), Cavalier Scout (x4), Beretta 101T (x4), Ares Predator IV(x2), FN 5-7C (x2), HK 227-X (x2) ) (Rating 6) (13200¥)
Middle Lifestyle (2 months [Jon Craig]) (10000¥)
Rover Model 2068 (25000¥)
Evo Falcon (Tracked) (17000¥)
Ammunition
APDS 300 rounds (2100¥)
EX-Explosive 300 rounds (3000¥)
Regular Ammo  500 rounds (1000¥)
Taser Dart 30 rounds (150¥)
30 Clips (150¥) [5 each weapon]
Quick-draw holster (Ares Predator IV shoulder sling) (100¥)
Concealable holster (Beretta 101T small of back) (75¥)
Concealable holster (Yamaha Pulsar ankle) (75¥)
Indian Pathfinder (6000¥) (backup vehicle)
(124005¥) (+25)
995 left over


Notes:
Magician (+15)
Allergy (Mild, Gold) (-5)
Sensitive Neural Structure (-5)
Addiction (Mild, Nicotine) (-5)

Fixer (2/2)
Talismonger (2/2)
Bartender (2/2)
Bouncer (2/2)
Stripper (2/2)
(+20)
Title: Re: Welcom to Denver: Character: Kinsey
Post by: kv on December 12, 2011, 05:23:50 PM
Street Cred: 1 (Earned Karma /10, rounded up; capped at Charisma rating)

Notoriety: 1

Public Awareness: 1 ((Street Cred + Notoriety) / 3, rounded up)

(Calculated using formulas in SR4A, pg 265)
Title: Re: Welcom to Denver: Character: Kinsey
Post by: bull30548 on December 12, 2011, 05:31:41 PM
I will go with Prejudiced at -10 as I am Outspoken against the Humanis organization (a specific group). That leaves me -5 over so I will drop a point into Infiltration and the extra 1 BP I will put in finance again and put that money to a Basic DocWagon contract.
Title: Re: Welcom to Denver: Character: Kinsey
Post by: kv on December 12, 2011, 05:45:07 PM
Sounds good.

  - kv
Title: Re: Welcom to Denver: Character: Kinsey
Post by: kv on March 19, 2012, 07:32:42 PM
Hey Bull,

 I was surprised when you mentioned having APDS ammo (since I remember it's Availability being super high out of reach of regular runners), so I double-checked, and it has an Availability of 18- Ruski told me that you can take the Restricted Gear edge (5bp) to get past that, though, so you can have it. 

I double-checked the rest of your stuff, and I'm noticing now that you have 22 fake licenses at rating 6. That's a lot of them, and a rating 6 fake license has an availability of 18 as well- but those would require separate 'Restricted gear' edges, and you can't take it 22 more times. It's easy enough to knock those down to rating 4, and then you're fine on availabilities and restrictions. You'll even have a little extra money left over.

Also, as a note to myself, you have cyber contacts instead of glasses. My bad.

  - kv
Title: Re: Welcom to Denver: Character: Kinsey
Post by: bull30548 on May 10, 2012, 04:56:55 PM
Alias: Kinsey
Name: Jon Craig, Thomas Bradley
Total Karma: 1
Current Karma: 1
Metatype: Human
Height: 5'8
Weight: 155 lbs.
Lifestyle: Middle (2 months)
Sex: Male
Age: 22

Stats:
Body: 3
Agility: 2
Reaction: 4
Strength: 2
Charisma: 3
Intuition: 3
Logic: 3
Willpower: 4
Edge: 2
Essence: 6
Magic: 5
Resonance: 0
(200)

Skills:
Pistols 3
Dodge 3
Perception 2
Infiltration 2
Assenssing 2
Astral Combat 2
Conjuring Group 3
Counterspelling  (Combat Spells) 5 (+2)
Ritual Sorcery 2
Spellcasting  (Combat Spells) 5 (+2)
(138)


Knowledge (+18)
Local Mages 2
Talismonger 2
Magical Security 3
Magic Theory 2

English N
Latin 3
(+0)

Spells/Cyberware:
Magic:
Mana ball
Mana Bolt
Increase Reflexes
Increase [Reaction]
Heal
Decrease [Logic]
Physical Barrier
FireWater
Detect [Guns]
(+24)

Gear:
Ares Predator 4 (350¥) (Smartlink)
Armor Clothing (x3) (1500¥)
Greatcoat Line  (3000¥)
Form-fitting Body Armor (Full body suit) (x2) (3200¥)
Bike Racing Armor (w/ Helmet) (x2) (1400¥)
Hermes Ikon (3000¥)
Iris Orb OS (1000¥)
(backup Commlink)
Renraku Sensei (1000¥)
Iris Orb  OS (1000¥)
AR Gloves (250¥)
Sim Module (100¥)
Sub vocal  Microphone (50¥)
Contact Lenses (Rating 3) [Image Link, Smartlink] (675¥)
Earbuds (Rating 3) [Audio Enhancement (Rating 3) Sound Filter(Rating 3), Spatial Recognizer] (930¥)
Quick Draw holster (Ares Predator 4 Shoulder rig) (100¥)
Docwagon Basic (5000¥)
Fake SIN (Rating 4) (x1) (4000¥)
Fake License (spell casting , conceal carry,  Ares Predator 4) (Rating 4) (2400¥)
Middle Lifestyle (2 months [Jon Craig]) (10000¥)
Evo Falcon (Tracked) (17000¥)
Ammunition
EX-Explosive 100 rounds (1000¥)
Regular Ammo  500 rounds (1000¥)
5 Clips (25¥)
Magical Gear:
Counterspelling Focus (Combat) (Force 3) (15000¥) (3 to bind)
Sustaining Focus (Health) (Force 2)  (20000¥) (2 to bind)
Spellcasting Focus (Combat) (Force 2) (30000¥) (2 to bind)
(122980¥) (25 + 7 bound = 32)
2020 left over


Notes:
Magician (+15)
Allergy (Mild, Gold) (-5)
Sensitive Neural Structure (-5)
Addiction (Mild, Nicotine) (-5)
Outspoken (Humanis Group) (-10)
(-10)

Fixer (2/2)
Talismonger (2/2)
Bartender (2/2)
Stripper (2/2)
(+16)
Title: Re: Welcom to Denver: Character: Kinsey
Post by: bull30548 on May 10, 2012, 05:20:33 PM
Adding a Fake SIN (Rating 2) (2000¥) to the list so that only leaves me with 20¥ left over.
Title: Re: Welcom to Denver: Character: Kinsey
Post by: Ruski on May 10, 2012, 05:56:28 PM
thats enough for a bad cup of coffee. I'll go halvsies with ya on it. :-)
Title: Re: Welcom to Denver: Character: Kinsey
Post by: kv on June 25, 2012, 10:22:11 PM
Bull, I saw Abraham Lincoln, Vampire Hunter this weekend (please don't tell anyone), but the entire movie, I kept thinking to myself: "Self, that guy looks like a young Liam Neeson!"

So, I got a couple pictures of him, and I thought you'd like the option of choosing an icon of your own:

Your current one:
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v437/k1d_v1d/Kinsey-1.png)

And your other options:
#2(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v437/k1d_v1d/Kinsey2.png)

#3(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v437/k1d_v1d/Kinsey3.png)

#4(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v437/k1d_v1d/Kinsey4.png)

Which one strikes your fancy?

  - kv
Title: Re: Welcom to Denver: Character: Kinsey
Post by: bull30548 on June 26, 2012, 09:10:44 AM
#3
Title: Re: Welcom to Denver: Character: Kinsey
Post by: kv on June 26, 2012, 11:33:02 AM
You got it. :)

  - kv
Title: Re: Welcom to Denver: Character: Kinsey
Post by: kv on July 06, 2012, 02:13:38 PM
Kinsey, I put all the characters into Chummer, and I noticed that you have a few extra points (according to that program; 10BP and 8,420¥) - I can email you the Kinsey.chum file, if you want, but I just thought I would mention it.

Mostly I'm writing this because I'm not sure what armor you're wearing, but with a low body (3), wearing form-fitting body armor and armored clothes gives you a reaction penalty. Send me a private message with your email address, and we can chat further using that method.

  - kv
Title: Re: Welcom to Denver: Character: Kinsey
Post by: bull30548 on July 18, 2012, 08:50:48 PM
You know you keep bouncing me around on the math of this KV lol.  Anyway drop the Fake SIN that alleviates some of the money.  Drop Conjuring group to 2 and Astral Combat to 1 and that takes care of the extra points I believe.  As for the Armor I was planning on losing the coat.  I thought I had vision enhancement on my contacts as well but someone said that smartlink counts as 2 though I can't find anything to support that.

The excess armor doesn't really affect anything other than my ability to shoot really and my initiative score as it can't effect the number of passes I get.  It has no impact on my spellcasting since those go off of Logic and the associated skill.
Title: Re: Welcom to Denver: Character: Kinsey
Post by: kv on July 18, 2012, 09:22:30 PM
You have chummer installed, right? I can just send you the data file I'm working from, and this will get easier.

  -kv
Title: Welcom to Denver: Character: Kinsey
Post by: bull30548 on July 22, 2012, 07:04:05 PM
I do have it and you can send it but I can't access the forum except through my iPad.
Title: Re: Welcom to Denver: Character: Kinsey
Post by: kv on July 23, 2012, 10:59:17 PM
Send me your email address in a forum PM, and I'll email the file to you so you can check it from your email and examine it at your leisure.

  - kv
Title: Re: Welcom to Denver: Character: Kinsey
Post by: kv on August 04, 2012, 12:58:28 AM
Steps to Casting"
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1. Choose the Spell you wish to cast at the target
The spell you're casting is Manabolt (SR4A, pg 204)
Type: M  Range: LOS  Damage: P  Duration: I  DV: (F/2)

If you wanted to trade your hard-target physical damage spells for stun spells, they work equally well, and with a little less burn on the brainpan. For Instance: Stunbolt (SR4A, pg 205)
Type: M  Range: LOS  Damage: S  Duration: I  DV: (F/2) - 1

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2. Choose the Force for the spell, up to twice your magic rating
You chose Force 5, equal to your Magic Rating. I'm using the sheet here (http://ingomonk.bullhonkie.com/forums/index.php?topic=2664.msg72018#msg72018) for reference.

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3. Add you Magic to your pool
Magic 5

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4. Add your Spellcasting to your pool
Spellcasting (Spec: Combat Spells) 5 (7)

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5. Add the bonus for your mentor spirit to your pool, if applicable.
You don't have a mentor spirit, but this is one area where I think it would be beneficial- when I'm playing a mage, looking through the mentors and figuring out which ones would work and which ones wouldn't also helps me to get a handle on the character. Still, you have 12 dice at this point, not too shabby.

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6. Add the bonus for a Spellcasting Focus to your pool, if it is of the correct type and you do not wish to save it to resist drain later.

You have a Spellcasting Focus (Combat) (Force 2). For bookkeeping purposes, I'm going to save that for Drain later.
You also have a Sustaining Focus (Health) (Force 2), which I would have recommended using to sustain your Increased Reflexes spell. More on that in a bit.

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7. Subtract any Wound modifiers (or modifiers from sustained spells) from the pool.
Kinsey took 1 stun damage while casting Increased Reflexes at the start of combat (http://ingomonk.bullhonkie.com/forums/index.php?topic=2721.msg72279#msg72279). He's also sustaining Increased Reflexes for a -2 penalty, with no reason that I understand, so let's go ahead and move that to his Sustaining Focus.

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8. Roll your pool dice, add up your Hits. If you glitch, tell the gamemaster.
Magic (5) + Spellcasting/Combat Spells (7) + Wound (-1) = 11 Dice
11d6.hits(5) → [5,1,6,1,4,2,4,6,5,3,6] = (5)
http://invisiblecastle.com/roller/view/3637966/

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9. Take the lesser of your Hits and the spell's Force; this is your Actual Hits Total.
In this case, the number of hits (5) is the same as the Spell's force (5), so there's nothing to worry about. Typically, you take the lesser of the two options, which gives a good reason to not just cast at low force and pump it up with a big dicepool.

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10. If the spell is resisted, and your target is living, the GM will roll resistance pool and subtract from your actual hits. If your target is non-living, the GM will compare your actual hits to the threshold. If your actual hits is reduced to zero or less (in the former case), or if your actual hits falls short of the threshold (in the latter case), skip to step 12.
Resistance for Mana spells is Willpower. If this had been a physical spell, not only would the target get to resist with Body, but he or she would also be allowed to use armor to resist damage.

 In this case, we're going to say you targeted one of the 'lowly normal' Red Samurai instead of the Lieutenant. The target has a willpower of 4, and will roll to resist damage normally.
4d6.hits(5) → [3,3,1,4] = (0)
http://invisiblecastle.com/roller/view/3637967/

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11. Tell the GM your Actual Hits, and the Force of the Spell. Your GM will determine the effect of the spell.

The red samurai rolled a glitch on her Damage Resistance, so in addition to taking 5 boxes of damage, we'll say one of the target's implants stops working- 1d6 (5) so her Muscle Toner begins functioning ineffectively, and she loses 1 dice to Agility tests. We'll leave her at the same initiative, for the sake of bookkeeping, but she's going to regret that here in a little while.

Resisting Drain
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12. Start a new pool, add your Willpower to it.
Willpower (4)

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13. Add the Attribute that your tradition uses to resist Drain.
Kinsey is a straight-up Mage, and resists with Logic (3)

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14. If you did not add your Spellcasting Focus rating to your spellcasting pool, add it now.

Here's your bonus (+2). That's why we saved it for later.

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15. Roll your pool dice. Subtract one from the Drain Damage value for each hit.
Note that this pool is not reduced due to sustaining a spell or wound modifiers. This is important- and a detail I had missed before this game; damage resistance rolls are almost never subject to modifiers.

Anyway, Drain Value for Manabolt is F/2. Drain is rounded down (SR4a, pg 203, 'Drain Value'). Force 5 / 2 = 2.5 rounded down to 2. Kinsey needs to resist 2 drain.

Kinsey has Willpower (4) + Logic (3) + Sustaining Focus (2) = 9
9d6.hits(5) → [5,6,2,6,4,1,4,3,1] = (3)
http://invisiblecastle.com/roller/view/3637974/

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16. If you did not reduce the Drain Damage value to zero, apply the damage to your condition monitor; physical if the force was greater than your Magic rating, stun otherwise.
Kinsey resist with zero drain, after inflicting 5 damage to a badass Renracu Red Samurai without breaing a sweat.
Title: Re: Welcom to Denver: Character: Kinsey
Post by: bull30548 on August 04, 2012, 07:46:00 AM
Pg. 204
As an optional rule, every net hit applied also increases the dran DV of the spell by +.  For area effect spells, the highest net hits used applies to the Drain DV.

Pg. 204

The base Damage Value for Combat spells is based on Force which is chosen by the magician at the time of casting.  Any net his scored on the Spellcasting Test increase the DV by 1 per net hit.  Each spell description notes whether damage is Stun (S) or Physical (P).

Pg. 199
Sustaining foci are unusual in that they do not add any dice to a test.  Instead, a magician may cast a spell through a sustaining focus and the focus will sustain the spell for him.  A spell susted by such a focus does not inflict a dice pool modifier for sustaining the spell.  A spell sustained by a sustainng focus cannot have a Force greater that that of the focus.

That is why my rolls were the way they were.  The sustaining focus doesn't work with a Force 5 Increase Reflexes spell (since a force five is 20R I couldn't get one) .  I screwed up on the rolls forgetting to take away my dice.  So I took away successes though as I pointed out I got two back cause I forgot about my specialization (and the 1 point of stun I previously took) so I only lose 1 die. 

Now if that optional rule isn't there great.
Title: Re: Welcom to Denver: Character: Kinsey
Post by: bull30548 on August 04, 2012, 05:12:44 PM
Okay one more time (woohoo) lets see if this balances out better.  So at your suggestion I rebuilt Kinsey again with a mentor spirit as well as I made him less powerful magic wise.  I pulled this right off of Chummer and he was a BP 0.

== Info ==
Street Name: Kinsey
Name: Occult Investigator
Movement: 10/25, Swim: 5
Karma: 0
Street Cred: 0
Notoriety: 1
Public Awareness: 0
Human
Composure: 6
Judge Intentions: 5
Lift/Carry: 6 (30 kg/20 kg)
Memory: 8
Nuyen: 0

== Attributes ==
BOD: 4
AGI: 3
REA: 3
STR: 2
CHA: 2
INT: 3
LOG: 4
WIL: 4
EDG: 2
MAG: 5

== Derived Attributes ==
Essence:                   6
Initiative:                6
IP:                        1
Astral Initiative:         6
Astral IP:                 3
Matrix Initiative:         5
Matrix IP:                 1
Physical Damage Track:     10
Stun Damage Track:         10

== Active Skills ==
Animal Handling            : 0                      Pool: 2
Animal Training            : 0                      Pool: 2
Archery                    : 0                      Pool: 2
Armorer                    : 0                      Pool: 3
Artisan                    : 0                      Pool: 2
Assensing                  : 1                      Pool: 4
Automatics                 : 1 [Machine Pistols]    Pool: 4 (6)
Banishing                  : 3                      Pool: 8
Binding                    : 3                      Pool: 8
Blades                     : 0                      Pool: 2
Climbing                   : 0                      Pool: 1
Clubs                      : 0                      Pool: 2
Computer                   : 1                      Pool: 5
Con                        : 0                      Pool: 1
Counterspelling            : 3                      Pool: 8
Cybercombat                : 0                      Pool: 3
Data Search                : 1                      Pool: 5
Demolitions                : 0                      Pool: 3
Disguise                   : 0                      Pool: 2
Diving                     : 0                      Pool: 3
Dodge                      : 2                      Pool: 5
Escape Artist              : 0                      Pool: 2
Etiquette                  : 1 [Street]             Pool: 3 (5)
First Aid                  : 0                      Pool: 3
Flight                     : 0                      Pool: 1
Forgery                    : 0                      Pool: 2
Gunnery                    : 0                      Pool: 2
Gymnastics                 : 0                      Pool: 2
Hacking                    : 0                      Pool: 3
Heavy Weapons              : 0                      Pool: 2
Infiltration               : 1 [Urban]              Pool: 4 (6)
Instruction                : 0                      Pool: 1
Intimidation               : 0                      Pool: 1
Leadership                 : 0                      Pool: 1
Locksmith                  : 1                      Pool: 4
Longarms                   : 0                      Pool: 2
Navigation                 : 0                      Pool: 2
Negotiation                : 0                      Pool: 1
Palming                    : 0                      Pool: 2
Parachuting                : 0                      Pool: 3
Perception                 : 1 [Visual]             Pool: 4 (6)
Pilot Ground Craft         : 0                      Pool: 2
Pilot Watercraft           : 0                      Pool: 2
Pistols                    : 2 [Semi-Automatics]    Pool: 5 (7)
Riding                     : 0                      Pool: 2
Running                    : 0                      Pool: 1
Shadowing                  : 1                      Pool: 4
Spellcasting               : 3                      Pool: 8
Summoning                  : 3                      Pool: 8
Survival                   : 0                      Pool: 3
Swimming                   : 0                      Pool: 1
Throwing Weapons           : 0                      Pool: 2
Tracking                   : 0                      Pool: 2
Unarmed Combat             : 1                      Pool: 4

== Knowledge Skills ==
English                    : N                      Pool: 0 (2)
Japanese                   : 4                      Pool: 7
Latin                      : 4                      Pool: 7
Local Area Knowledge       : 5                      Pool: 8
Magic Theory               : 4                      Pool: 8
Security Tactics           : 3                      Pool: 7

== Contacts ==
Bartender (2, 1)
Fixer (2, 1)
Lone Star Beat Cop (2, 1)
Street Snitch (1, 1)
Talismonger (2, 1)

== Qualities ==
Addiction (Mild) (Nicotine)
Allergy (Common, Mild) (Gold)
Focus Addiction (Mild)
Magician
Media Junkie (Mild)
Mentor Spirit (Sun)
Restricted Gear (Rating 1)
Sensitive Neural Structure

== Spells ==
(Tradition: Hermetic, Resist Drain with WIL + LOG (8))
Increase [Attribute] (AGI) DV: (F÷2)-2
Increase Reflexes          DV: (F÷2)+2
Manabolt                   DV: (F÷2)
Physical Barrier           DV: (F÷2)+3
Stunball                   DV: (F÷2)+1
Stunbolt                   DV: (F÷2)-1

== Lifestyles ==
Middle  1 months

== Armor ==
Armor Clothing            4/0
Form-Fitting Full-Body Suit6/2

== Weapons ==
Ares Predator IV
   +Smartgun System
   DV: 5P   AP: -1   RC: 0
Ares Viper Slivergun
   +Smartgun System
   +Sound Suppressor
   DV: 8P(f)   AP: +5   RC: 0
Remington Roomsweeper
   +Smartgun System
   DV: 5P   AP: -1   RC: 0
Steyr TMP
   +Gas Vent 3
   +Smartgun System
   DV: 4P   AP: -   RC: 3

== Commlink ==
Sony Emperor (2, 2, 2, 3)
   +Renraku Ichi

== Gear ==
Analyze Rating 3
AR Gloves Rating 1
   +Skinlink
Autopicker Rating 3
Browse Rating 3
Camera, Micro x4
Command Rating 1
Directional Microphone
Earbuds Rating 3
   +Audio Enhancement Rating 2
   +Select Sound Filter Rating 1
Edit Rating 3
Fake License (Press) Rating 4
Fake License (Steyr TMP) Rating 4 x2
Fake License (Ares Predator IV) Rating 4 x2
Fake License (Remington Roomsweeper) Rating 4 x2
Fake License (Spellcasting Focus (Combat)) Rating 4 x2
Fake License (Sustaining Focus (Health)) Rating 4 x2
Fake License (Ares Viper Slivergun) Rating 4 x2
Fake SIN (John) Rating 4
Fake SIN (Jack) Rating 4
Goggles Rating 6
   +Image Link
   +Smartlink
   +Vision Magnification
   +Vision Enhancement Rating 3
Lockpick Set
Mage Sight Goggles
Magical Lodge Materials Rating 3
Microphone Rating 1 x3
Security Tags Rating 1 x20
Spare Clip (Steyr TMP) x4
   +Ammo: EX-Explosive Rounds (Machine Pistols)
   +Ammo: Regular Ammo (Machine Pistols)
Spare Clip (Ares Predator IV) x4
   +Ammo: Regular Ammo (Heavy Pistols)
   +Ammo: EX-Explosive Rounds (Heavy Pistols)
Spare Clip (Remington Roomsweeper) x4
   +Ammo: Regular Ammo (Heavy Pistols)
   +Ammo: Flechette Rounds (Heavy Pistols)
Spare Clip (Ares Viper Slivergun) x2
   +Ammo: Flechette Rounds (Heavy Pistols)
Spellcasting Focus (Combat) (bonded) Rating 3
Sustaining Focus (Health) (bonded) Rating 3
Sustaining Focus (Health) (bonded) Rating 3

== Vehicles ==
Mercury Comet (Sedan)
   +Vehicle Sensor
Title: Re: Welcom to Denver: Character: Kinsey
Post by: kv on August 04, 2012, 05:23:06 PM
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As an optional rule, every net hit applied also increases the dran DV of the spell by +.  For area effect spells, the highest net hits used applies to the Drain DV. (SR4A, pg 204)

I don't know about you, but that sounds like the worst optional rule ever. The only way I would use a rule like that was if I allowed you to bypass the Force of the spell, allowing aggregate damage.

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The base Damage Value for Combat spells is based on Force which is chosen by the magician at the time of casting.  Any net his scored on the Spellcasting Test increase the DV by 1 per net hit.  Each spell description notes whether damage is Stun (S) or Physical (P). (Sr4A, pg 204)
From what I read, damage is capped at Force. If this is an optional rule, I would say that it was a companion to the rule above, which allows for more lethal spells at greater risk.

Since we're running the Missions as a 'basic' game, I'd stay away from optional rules like this. Gotta walk before you can run, and all that.

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Sustaining foci are unusual in that they do not add any dice to a test.  Instead, a magician may cast a spell through a sustaining focus and the focus will sustain the spell for him.  A spell susted by such a focus does not inflict a dice pool modifier for sustaining the spell.  A spell sustained by a sustaining focus cannot have a Force greater that that of the focus. (SR4A, pg 199)

There are only four levels of the Increased Reflexes Spell- casting it at Force 5 doesn't give you any net benefits (as far as I can tell)- you need a specific number of successes to get the desired boost.

Increased Reflexes: Threshold 2 - +1 Initiative, +1 Pass
Increased Reflexes: Threshold 3 - +2 Initiative, +2 Passes
Increased Reflexes: Threshold 4 - +3 Initiative, +3 Passes (max)

I would say we could either figure out a way to increase your Sustaining Focus (Health), or just retroactively say you were using Improved Reflexes as a Force 2 spell. Either way, you're quicker, although I wouldn't try a speed battle with anyone in your group- they are some very quick individuals.

I believe that when I punched your character into Chummer, you had some extra build points (the example characters in the book aren't super strong builds), so we can figure that out if we need to, too. I still needed your email address to send you the .Chum file I have for Kinsey. I'd prefer you send it to me via Forum PM, but if you really want, you can post it here, and I'll delete it after I read it and send you the message.

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That is why my rolls were the way they were.  The sustaining focus doesn't work with a Force 5 Increase Reflexes spell (since a force five is 20R I couldn't get one) .  I screwed up on the rolls forgetting to take away my dice.  So I took away successes though as I pointed out I got two back cause I forgot about my specialization (and the 1 point of stun I previously took) so I only lose 1 die.

SR4 works on the idea that additions and penalties add to the number of dice you get. If you mess up the number of dice (like this), just leave the original roll in the post, admit you made a mistake, and then roll another attempt and note the results at the end of your post.

  - kv
Title: Re: Welcom to Denver: Character: Kinsey
Post by: bull30548 on August 04, 2012, 07:11:47 PM
Okay at your request I took two more flaws (-5 each) that pushed me up to 4 magic.  Then I took out sorcery skill group kept them at three each and dropped ritual spellcasting.  And I dropped automatics down to one. 
Oh also note that I changed my armor so it is in line with my body level so I shouldn't have any penalty there and my vehicle changed as well.   I also added ingo suggestion on the other skills I should have.  And the mentor spirit is already there.   
Title: Re: Welcom to Denver: Character: Kinsey
Post by: kv on August 04, 2012, 10:56:10 PM
Punched this verison of Kinsey in, and it's a much better build. I'm still showing you with 8BP left over after everything is said and done.

This may be a good time to add a spirit to your repertoire.

PM me your email address, I'll send you the .chum file I'm editing, so we can figure this out.

  - kv
Title: Re: Welcom to Denver: Character: Kinsey
Post by: bull30548 on December 07, 2012, 11:40:49 AM
So I did a little rebuilding and switched out some spells changed the Mentor Spirit, added a fire spirit, and switched the Foci around to better fit this build. 

-Dropped most of the spells except the Stunball, Stunbolt, and Manabolt.
Net, Bind, Slow (if you are correct if I have a bit more BPs Armor as well).
-Mentor Spirit (Fire-Bringer) (fits better for my character and well fire spirit/ manipulation spells)
-Fire Spirit (Force 4) with five services
-Change the Spellcasting (Health) to (Manipulation) and drop the other Spellcasting Focus for a Summoning Focus (Rating 3).
Title: Re: Welcom to Denver: Character: Kinsey
Post by: kv on December 07, 2012, 03:04:12 PM
If you would be willing to post a copy of the new build, I'll take a look at it.


  - kv
Title: Re: Welcom to Denver: Character: Kinsey
Post by: bull30548 on December 07, 2012, 07:16:30 PM
== Info ==
Street Name: Kinsey
Name: Occult Investigator
Movement: 10/25, Swim: 5
Karma: 0
Street Cred: 0
Notoriety: 1
Public Awareness: 0
Human Male Age 24
Composure: 6
Judge Intentions: 5
Lift/Carry: 6 (30 kg/20 kg)
Memory: 8
Nuyen: 0

== Attributes ==
BOD: 4
AGI: 3
REA: 3
STR: 2
CHA: 2
INT: 3
LOG: 4
WIL: 4
EDG: 2
MAG: 5

== Derived Attributes ==
Essence:                   6
Initiative:                6
IP:                        1
Astral Initiative:         6
Astral IP:                 3
Matrix Initiative:         5
Matrix IP:                 1
Physical Damage Track:     10
Stun Damage Track:         10

== Active Skills ==
Animal Handling            : 0                      Pool: 2
Animal Training            : 0                      Pool: 2
Archery                    : 0                      Pool: 2
Armorer                    : 0                      Pool: 3
Artisan                    : 0                      Pool: 2
Assensing                  : 1                      Pool: 4
Automatics                 : 1                      Pool: 4
Banishing                  : 3                      Pool: 8
Binding                    : 3                      Pool: 8
Blades                     : 0                      Pool: 2
Climbing                   : 0                      Pool: 1
Clubs                      : 0                      Pool: 2
Computer                   : 1                      Pool: 5
Con                        : 0                      Pool: 1
Counterspelling            : 3                      Pool: 8
Cybercombat                : 0                      Pool: 3
Data Search                : 1                      Pool: 5
Demolitions                : 0                      Pool: 3
Disguise                   : 0                      Pool: 2
Diving                     : 0                      Pool: 3
Dodge                      : 2                      Pool: 5
Escape Artist              : 0                      Pool: 2
Etiquette                  : 1                      Pool: 3
First Aid                  : 0                      Pool: 3
Flight                     : 0                      Pool: 1
Forgery                    : 0                      Pool: 2
Gunnery                    : 0                      Pool: 2
Gymnastics                 : 0                      Pool: 2
Hacking                    : 0                      Pool: 3
Heavy Weapons              : 0                      Pool: 2
Infiltration               : 1                      Pool: 4
Instruction                : 0                      Pool: 1
Intimidation               : 0                      Pool: 1
Leadership                 : 0                      Pool: 1
Locksmith                  : 1                      Pool: 4
Longarms                   : 0                      Pool: 2
Navigation                 : 0                      Pool: 2
Negotiation                : 0                      Pool: 1
Palming                    : 0                      Pool: 2
Parachuting                : 0                      Pool: 3
Perception                 : 1                      Pool: 4
Pilot Ground Craft         : 1                      Pool: 4
Pilot Watercraft           : 0                      Pool: 2
Pistols                    : 2                      Pool: 5
Riding                     : 0                      Pool: 2
Running                    : 0                      Pool: 1
Shadowing                  : 1                      Pool: 4
Spellcasting               : 4                      Pool: 9
Summoning                  : 3                      Pool: 8
Survival                   : 0                      Pool: 3
Swimming                   : 0                      Pool: 1
Throwing Weapons           : 0                      Pool: 2
Tracking                   : 0                      Pool: 2
Unarmed Combat             : 1                      Pool: 4

== Knowledge Skills ==
English                    : N                      Pool: 0 (2)
Japanese                   : 4                      Pool: 7
Latin                      : 4                      Pool: 7
Local Area Knowledge       : 5                      Pool: 8
Magic Theory               : 4                      Pool: 8
Security Tactics           : 3                      Pool: 7

== Contacts ==
Bartender (2, 1)
Fixer (2, 1)
Lone Star Beat Cop (2, 1)
Street Snitch (1, 1)
Talismonger (2, 1)

== Qualities ==
Addiction (Mild) (Nicotine)
Allergy (Common, Mild) (Gold)
Focus Addiction (Mild)
Magician
Mania/Phobia (Uncommon, Mild) (Needles)
Mentor Spirit (Fire-Bringer)
Restricted Gear (Rating 1)
Sensitive Neural Structure

== Spells ==
(Tradition: Hermetic, Resist Drain with WIL + LOG (8))
Bind                       DV: (F÷2)+1
Manabolt                   DV: (F÷2)
Net                        DV: (F÷2)+3
Slow                       DV: (F÷2)+3
Stunball                   DV: (F÷2)+1
Stunbolt                   DV: (F÷2)-1

== Lifestyles ==
Middle  1 months

== Armor ==
Actioneer Business Clothes5/3
Armor Clothing            4/0
Armor Clothing            4/0
Clothing                  0/0
Clothing                  0/0
Clothing                  0/0
Clothing                  0/0
Form-Fitting Full-Body Suit6/2
Vashon Island: Aces High Jacket Line3/3
   +Chemical Protection 1
   +Insulation 1
Victory: Industrious Jumpsuit4/2
   +Chemical Protection 2
   +Fire Resistance 2

== Weapons ==
Ares Executive Protector w/ Smartlink
   +Stock
   +Smartgun System
   +Sound Suppressor
   Pool: 6   DV: 5P   AP: -   RC: 1
Ares Viper Slivergun
   +Quick-Draw Holster
   +Smartgun System
   +Sound Suppressor
   Pool: 7   DV: 8P(f)   AP: +5   RC: 0
Remington Roomsweeper
   +Concealable Holster
   +Smartgun System
   Pool: 7   DV: 5P   AP: -1   RC: 0
Savalette Guardian
   +Quick-Draw Holster
   +Gas Vent 3
   +Smartgun System
   Pool: 7   DV: 5P   AP: -1   RC: 4
Walther Secura w/ Smartlink
   +Concealable Holster
   +Smartgun System
   Pool: 7   DV: 5P   AP: -1   RC: 0

== Commlink ==
Sony Emperor (2, 2, 2, 3)
   +Renraku Ichi

== Gear ==
Analyze Rating 2
AR Gloves Rating 1
   +Skinlink
Autopicker Rating 3
Browse Rating 2
Camera, Micro x4
Command Rating 1
Directional Microphone
Earbuds Rating 3
   +Audio Enhancement Rating 2
   +Select Sound Filter Rating 1
Edit Rating 2
Fake License (Press) Rating 4
Fake License (Ares Predator IV) Rating 4 x2
Fake License (Remington Roomsweeper) Rating 4 x2
Fake License (Spellcasting Focus (Combat)) Rating 4 x2
Fake License (Sustaining Focus (Health)) Rating 4 x2
Fake License (Ares Viper Slivergun) Rating 4 x2
Fake License (Savalette Guardian) Rating 4 x2
Fake SIN (John) Rating 4
Fake SIN (Jack) Rating 4
Goggles Rating 6
   +Image Link
   +Smartlink
   +Vision Magnification
   +Vision Enhancement Rating 3
Lockpick Set
Mage Sight Goggles
Magical Lodge Materials Rating 3
Microphone Rating 1 x3
Security Tags Rating 1 x20
Spare Clip (Remington Roomsweeper) x4
   +Ammo: Regular Ammo (Heavy Pistols)
   +Ammo: Flechette Rounds (Heavy Pistols)
Spare Clip (Ares Viper Slivergun) x2
   +Ammo: Flechette Rounds (Heavy Pistols)
Spare Clip (Walther Secura w/ Smartlink) x4
   +Ammo: EX-Explosive Rounds (Heavy Pistols)
   +Ammo: Regular Ammo (Heavy Pistols)
Spare Clip (Ares Executive Protector w/ Smartlink) x2
   +Ammo: EX-Explosive Rounds (Submachine Guns)
   +Ammo: Regular Ammo (Submachine Guns)
Spare Clip (Savalette Guardian) x4
   +Ammo: Regular Ammo (Heavy Pistols)
   +Ammo: EX-Explosive Rounds (Heavy Pistols)
Spellcasting Focus (Combat) (Bonded Foci) Rating 3
Summoning Focus (Bonded Foci) (Fire Spirits) Rating 1
Sustaining Focus (Manipulation) (Bonded Foci) Rating 3

== Vehicles ==
Hyundai Shin-Hyung (Sedan)
   +Anti-Theft
   +Enhanced Image Screens
   +Off-Road Suspension
   +Vehicle Sensor