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Shadowrun RPG Play-By-Post Games => Welcome to the Shadows => Topic started by: Ruski on January 14, 2005, 02:17:23 PM
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Just like it says. give advice to your runner pals.
"Geek the Mage"
"Never make a deal with a Dragon."
"Don't count your credsticks before they've been laundered."
-RuskiFace the Pirate
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"Never trust an elf."
...unless he's a black car thief, and then leave him with your new car and loan him money... I'm sure he'll pay you right back.
;D ;D ;D
-Kid Vid
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Never Trust someone that says "Trust Me." if they have to tell you to do it, they probibly don't deserve to have it in the first place, and wouldn't get it otherwise, and probibly need it to take advantage of you.
-RuskiFace the Pirate
Trust me on this one.
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HAHAHAHAHHAHA.
-KidVid
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I like that!
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Use to be my personal slogan...
-RuskiFace the Pirate
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Sounds like one of my little sound bites. Always follow it up with a smile and a "Trust Me" in a "convincing" tone...
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See! further proof that you shouldn't trust anyone that tells you to 'trust me'
-RuskiFace the Pirate
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"One to the Heart another to the Head?"
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Well, there's that, although i think that the 'company policy' at the local prison durring times of riot is more fitting.
"Two to the chest, and one to the head; will alwies make sure that they are good and dead."
and only slightly less poetic is the policy of my very own local LAPD, the most despised cops in all the free world.
"If you pull the trigger once, you had better empty the entire clip."
they aparently discovered that with the lawsuits and bad publicity of falcely injured people, it was easyer to 'kill them all, and let god sort it out', so it's standard policy that if you find yourself in a situation where you have to shoot once, you are better off shooting them twelve times, because they are less likely to be alive to sue you afterwards.
cool huh?
-RuskiFace the Pirate
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Gotta love the place...
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i think it's where loanstar got thier policys from...
-RuskiFace the Pirate
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"There's no such thing as an easy shadowrun."
"Never pet the kitty."
"That horrible smell behind you is probably a ghoul."
"If the Raccoon shaman is grinning, check your pockets."
"When the pacifist pulls a gun, you're about to have a really bad day."
Gabriel
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Always Check a gift car for explosives and tracking devices.
Launder all money you get from megacorps.
ditch the johnson supplied phone after the run.
don't use the johnson supplied phone for 1-900-numbers.
-RuskiFace the Pirate
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Wait... why not the last one?
I have a couple of homeless guys I give the phones to after the run. They can always use them, and it keeps the J off my back.
"Kid?"
"What? No! THIS IS ERNIES PHONE! Tell God that he still owes me!"
"He what? is Kid there?"
"No kids here man? Are you mad? This is Europe!"
"What?"
"We're fighting a war? I ain't got time for chit-chat!"
"... Nevermind."
-Kid Vid
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LOL! That's pretty cool.
Gabriel
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i sometimes dismantle them and sell them on E-Bay.
-RuskIFace the Pirate
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First Rule of Supressive Fire:
It isn't.
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but not everyone knows that. LOL
so sometimes it works anyways.
-RuskiFace the Pirate
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"Heavy Armor is only good if you need to go slow"
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Heavy Armor:
when you absoultly positivitly have to get there eventually.
-RuskiFace the Pirate
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I recall reading that somewhere before... or maybe it's in my head.
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A head is a terrible thing to waste.
-Marie Antoinette
-RuskiFace the Pirate
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"There's a sucker born every minute."
-P.T. Barnum
-Kid Vid
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"Plastic makes it possible."
*KABOOM!*
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A californian dwarf surfer?
I likes this! Of course, it would be a little less original if I did it, but that didn't stop me from laughing and plotting to steal the idea. ;D ;D ;D
-Kid Vid
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Sure I believe in peace - peace through superior firepower...
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Not only, he's a Surfing Californian Dwarf Gecko Shaman with extreme resistance to toxins so he can go surfing in some (not all) of the most drekked up water around and not feel that nagging "go toxic" voice. Though, I don't think he'd wanna go surfing around the Yucatan...
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LOL that's just good advice in general.
-RuskiFace the Pirate
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Cash, Grass, or @$$, no one rides for free.
-Bumper sticker.
-RuskiFace the Pirate
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Note to self: Never get a ride with that guy!
-Kid Vid
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I thought YOU had that bumper sticker, Kid ;D
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or you better have gas money.
-RuskiFace the Pirate
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Wow... I just had to delete my own post because I accidently posted in the other PBP...
*slaps hand*
Bad Kid_Vid!
-Kid Vid
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Did you delete mine as well? I was basically saying that I'd post properly later today :-[
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*shrug* whatever. it's cool now. and we'll look forward to your post later poison.
-RuskiFace the Pirate
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Dese orks is goin' dizown... f'rill
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F'r sheezee, maneeze.
-Kid Vid
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Oh yes. i have a feeling they are all going down, and going to need a new hovercraft after this.
-RuskiFace the Pirate
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Don't give a water spirit coffee.
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If you have to go to a stuffer shack at 3AM bring your GPHMG.
-RuskiFace the Pirate
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you know i thought the purpse of gphmg was pretty clear
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Well, it's generally for times that you need a heavy machine gun, like...
taking over a country... or something. Has anyone actually SEEN a GPHMG in use at all? I never have.
-kv
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http://www.military-girls.com/navy_seal.html (http://www.military-girls.com/navy_seal.html)
you can shoot them out in arazona if you want.
-RuskiFace the Pirate
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Me, I prefer a well-thrown dagger from a concealed location. Or a sniper rifle. Take your pick.
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bouth exelent choices.
I prefer hacking a corperate shadow-database, and dirrecting a wage-slave executive to use their own budget to hire some shadowrunners to go do my job for me.
pushing buttons is so much easyer.
-RuskiFace the Priate
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True. Why get shot, blasted, or otherwise injured if you don't have to?
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and it's easyer to have an albi if you are actually someplace else when the drek goes down.
-RuskiFace the Pirate
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you know i thought the purpse of gphmg was pretty clear
Possibly, but what is it then?
I've known too many runners that considered it the near-ideal anti personelle weapon.
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um to kill stuff
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To make big holes in bigger targets.
-RuskiFace the Pirate
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Ah, that broadly defined. Then we agree.
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It's as general as I could make it.
Plus, that way, you can still shoot smaller things, just so long as they are bigger than the bullets; you are okay.
Look! A Flea!
-RuskiFace the Pirate
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"Aim small, miss small."
-Mel Gibson in "The Patriot"
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I think there are diffrent stratigies when using a GPHMG vs. a Musket.
GPHMG, for when you absolutly, posativly, must kill every last mother-fragger in sight.
(ammo sold seperatly)
-RuskiFace the Pirate
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a gphmg for the none gambleler
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What about grenades, bombs, and other things that go 'boom'?
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It's a bit of a gamble with the scatter rules.
-RuskiFace the Pirate
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not so much of a gamble if it goes off in an enclosed area. Bounce back *hurts*
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can we all say chunky salsa effect
:mercy: :mercy:
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from experience
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I been fourntne never to experanice that effect
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Well, hang arround. I'll see if I can introduce you to the effect in the run.
-RF
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In such situations, Karma is your friend (even if it must be burned permanently).
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Burn your Karma or burn your Char. Sheet.
*grin*
-RuskiFace the Pirate
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Or in some cases (mostly involving petty GMing) both.
-kv
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Nah, Nick just took all your stuff and left you to die.
-RuskiFace the Pirate
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I've been lucky. At least Shade'll Initiate so long as she survives the next session or two. Seeing as we're already in the Metaplanes, the GM has agreed it'll count as a Quest.
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lucky u
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Yeah... that was kind of a dissapointment, to spend all that time making a character whose main asset was his helicopter (decked out), contacts (plentiful), motorcycles and ability to drive, to have him sold out by the GM, stole his helicopter, gave his motorcycle away to another player, and sent him to CalFree.
Jackass.
-kv
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*winces* ouch. That's gotta hurt. Did you spend much time on a background, as well as the character?
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As much time as I spent on any character. It mostly took a lot of time to make him because he was my first real rigger (it usually takes me a character or two to get into an archetype), and I spent every cent of my one million newyen making sure it was a nice chopper (and every money from each of my runs to make it better)
All that, only to have it traded because... I'm not even sure why he did it, although I have heard some rumors of conspiracy (with the only player he let stay in Seattle). Apparently he felt like we were trying to kill his character (by making runs harder), and decided to 'get us back' for it.
:/ Oh well.
-kv
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*shrug* I suppose in a way it was partially true. I was making the runs harder.
mostly because; as the players get more powerfull, you need to throw bigger things at them to keep it challanging and fun.
aparently he was under the impression that they should all just do 'back to the shack' over and over again.
*shrug*
-RuskiFace the PIrate
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*Scratches head* where's the fun if you do the same thing over and over? I've done shack runs, but only with pregenerated characters at cons. Campaigns are a lot more fun if there's some decent variety.
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What I have always found is that having an underlieing "B Plot" works well with a campaign situation. Sure, your PC's go on a lot of indepindent runs, but every 2nd or 3rd game, you throw in some reoccuring theme or ongoing storyline that is purrely chracter-based. That keeps players interested even if you have a drekky runs.
Gabriel
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Well, I haven't talked to the guy in question in a little over four years, so I think the chances of me GMing another run with him, and trying to keep it interesting, are pretty slim anyways, but I'll keep that in mind for my other PC's.
-RuskiFace the Pirate
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Yeah, it wasn't so much a problem with that as it was the feeling that as runs got harder, we were helping him less.
First Run: We all make a valiant effort to make it out alive, almost everyone in the group bites it, except for him.
Second Run: We all make a valiant effort for everyone to make it out alive, and everyone but him in the group bites it.
Third Run: (the one where I came into the group) We were all making a valiant effort to make it out alive, some anti-runners show up, and we book- on the way out, he drops white phospherous grenades behind him to cover is escape. Did I mention that his fellow runners were also behind him in that escape attempt? My character was knocked unconscious(either by the grenade or by the firefight that ensued when we were trapped in the elevator) and eventually the other character grabbed my unconscious guy, climbed through the flames anyway, and got both of us out. We got onto the roof, we got back to my car, and then drove until a t-bird caught up with us, which shot the car full of holes. I was unconscious in the back seat, but still alive, and then he crashed the car, and made his way through the back of a diner to escape. He came back while the t-bird was searching for him to drop another phosphorous grenade into the car (that I was still alive and in) to erase any evidence of him being there.
Fourth Run: Everyone in the group except him is playing brand new characters (all of us having been killed off previously) He doesn't trust any of us, but he's useful because he has a bunch of guns and supplies to help the group. We get into the actual run, and things go well, and then at the drop off, he refuses to go in to meet Mr. Johnson to pick up the payment. He waits in the car, watching Mr. J's car from inside the rigger's ride, and sends my character (the 16 year old decker) in to negotiate. When J tries to double cross us, his character shoots out the back window of the riggers' ride to riddle the empty limo with holes, and then runs away. My decker has to grab a suitcase and get back out, and still manages to live. Kid_Vid officially retires, only to show up as a contact, NPC, and story development. This guy still demands his cut.
And so on and so forth. Only each time, less and less of his teammates lived, until the point where none of us wanted our characters to run with him, because it always ended up that he used us as meat shields, and got away scot free.
-kv
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Yea. he never did die though.
it pays to be a jerk and sell out your friends.
-RuskiFace the Pirate
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hmmm, I think you've mentioned him before.
Not a very charming chummer, was 'e now.
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Yea, He's a memorable laddy' alright.
the kind you can't forget even if you'd like to.
-RuskiFace the Pirate
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yep but on the street guys like that earn a really bad rep to point other runners refuse to run with him
as for vechicles one of my fav is a praire cat rigged out for recon /command post my riggers often can double as deckers
the vechic le is designed to not draw attion I also like useing bulldogs
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Actually, he and I talked about it, and so I wrote up a retirement run for him- we figured out how much money he would need to start his own corporation and retire, found a job that paid that much (plus a little extra)
There was a small cult of blood mages, and his group of runners went in and cleaned them out, rescuing some chicka for a reward, and taking out the mages for a VERY nice chunk of change.
It actually went a lot easier than I had planned, because like four extra people showed up, so there were a lot fewer bad guys, and I had hoped for the ratio to be favoring them slightly.
But it went well, and he retired. And things were okay for a little bit. The player decided that he wanted to GM- to use his character as a Fixer/Mr Johnson and write his own runs.
It sounded like a good idea...
-kv
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LOL we should have guessed that becoming a johnson wouldn't cure him of being a dickhead. LOL
-RuskiFace the Pirate
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I admit i am wierd with my riggers i dont go for the super fast flashy ride plain wapper helps you live longer
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Well, you should like the rigger/decker combination in SR4 then.
-RuskiFace the Pirate
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after all noboy looks twice at a ups truck
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maybe not twice, but they'll remember it after looking only once.
and it's hard to get away in, tough to hide in traffic when you stand out 6' taller than any other vehicle on the road.
-RuskiFace the Pirate
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we could have used one of those a couple runs back. It went bad and we had the weapons specialist with a computer use of 1 trying to use the automatic guns of the place we were supposed to put out of business trying to shoot a bunch of LoneStar's who had shown up.
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the object is not to draw attion
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I was talking about the rigger/decker
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HAHAHAHA
using skills of 1 is funny.
1 in 6 chance of screwing the pooch every time you drop the die.
-RF
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Amazingly, he did fairly decent on his rolls and shot up all the LoneStars. LoneStar had come in, surrounded me and the guy who had been carrying a desk (We were after the integrated computer). The first setting had the guns on heat seeking mode, but failed to exclude me and the other guy. I just got winged by the autoguns because I was cowering on the floor next to the desk, but the cops and my chummer weren't so lucky. *Then* the guy on the computer figured out how to reset the system to motion detector (I still wasn't about to move, and the other guy was unconsious at Deadly. Didn't have all that much sympathy, though, since he was the one who fragged the mission by going Bruce Lee while on recon.)
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hahahaha.
that's awsome.
-Ruski
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Ah, the number of missions that have been screwed by "Let's do recon! Hey, I bet we can get it right now! We're already here!"
-kv
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Ahhh yes.
Didn't you all get eaten by bugs once because of that?
-RuskiFace the Pirate
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I didn't. I believe I was stuck outside the church while the other guys were getting eaten. Dave and I were going to drive a truck through the front doors, but once I saw what we were up against, I believe I would crap myself and run away crying like a little girl.
So I would have lived.
-kv
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*shrug* you'd have to break the fourth wall to do it.
you guys didn't have radios, so there's no real way you'd know what was going on inside the church.
-RuskiFace the Pirate
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I had been hiding out as a homeless person- I didn't have anything bigger than a pistol, and once I put a truck through the door (which was our plan) it would've been pretty easy to see what we were up against, and carry out the aforementioned crying like a little girl and running away.
-kv
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*shrug* may have had to burn some karma to do it.
oh well. I don't think we are going to bother with offically finishing that run. I think it's close enough to done as it is.
-RuskiFace the Pirate
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Well, the main point was to teach us that bug spirits were bad, and expose UB to the world. Check and check.
I think all of us dying would just be an afterthought.
-kv
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yea, the next time ya'll go into a church and notice a wasp infestation, you probibly won't go inturupting the sermone to interogate the high-priest at gunpoint.
-RuskiFace the Pirate
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...just how many bugs were in there?
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A cool dozen.
They walked in durring a middle of a revival.
Horrah for subilty.
-RuskiFace the Pirate
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oouuch.
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Yea.
They emptied a couple of clips of APDS into one bug, and when it got back up, ... well, that's when we had to end.
-RuskiFace the Pirate
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The ones who stayed outside were the smart ones.
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I think that calling them 'smart' is overstating their abilitys a bit.
They were 'smarter than the guys who walked in and started shooting halfway through the recon work', certanly but they were right in the thick of it.
-RuskIFace the Pirate
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I thought the 'relative to the ones inside' was understood.
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bet the ones inside were wondering alright who was sposed to bring the cans of raid@
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Or maybe a couple bug bombs?
On second thought, bug bombs+trigger happy runners=big boom.
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You don't want explosives around thease boys.
their leader, was a self-proclaimed multple personality skitsophrenic. with one half a venerable saint, and the other a card carrying satinist.
"We've got to help thease people get out of the burning building now!"
(few minutes later)
"Oh crap, thease people we just rescued saw my face! I'll have to kill them all!"
-RuskiFace the Pirate
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Yeah, he was the bright bulb who walked into the church and decided to get his own 'smoking gun' on the priest in charge.
Me and the other guy who probably survived, we were doing recon as a couple of homeless people, checking out the soup kitchen. That was, until we heard the shooting. Then we started getting people out of there as fast as we could.
Nothing quite like rescuing people from the rest of your runner team. ;D
-kv
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And a good cover once LoneStar shows up.
"No, officer, I was just looking for a hot meal when some crazy guy started shooting!"
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I think that loan-star wasn't going to respond to the sounds of shooting in a redmond chapel.
at least not for a week or two.
-RuskiFace the Pirate
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If we were still there in a week or two, it would have been because we were dead.
-kv
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or an active part of the congrigation.
-RuskiFace the Pirate
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"Famous last words: Don't worry, it's not loaded."
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actruky i think its relax the safty ' s on
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Ok, then how about this one (Apocolypse should get a kick out of it...or two.)
Famous Last Words #56: Watch me goose that dragon!
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how about
"what's this red button do?"
-RuskiFace the Pirate
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Runner A: "Ok, now cut the blue wire."
Runner B: "...They're all blue."
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"Hey Guys! Watch THIS!"
-RuskiFace the Pirate
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"Trust me, it'll be easy."
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"It's a milk run. I'd do it myself, but I have a party to get to."
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"Friends help you move. Real friends help you move bodies."
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"Whaddya doing tonignt? oh, a movie and popcorn huh? uh... would you rathar be a 'real friend' and help a buddy out?"
-RuskiFace the Pirate
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"I think ther's a couple ghouls down the street who wouldn't ask where a free meal came from."
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Give them a body, and they try to take the whole party.
people are so greedy thease days.
-RuskiFace the Pirate
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That's why you dump and run.
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and it's why I'm able to find a slightly soiled trenchcoat any time I have to hide in a dumpster.
-RuskiFace the Pirate
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Is it an armored trenchcoat?
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not normally.
normally it's got big red stains, and a couple of holes in it.
ocasionally you'll find a nicer one, but mostly, it's just the 'already been shot' kind.
-RuskiFace the Pirate
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You know, when the campaign with my Changeling started, I did climb on top of a garbage bin, but never bothered to look inside.
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if it was in seattle. I bet there was a body in there.
-RuskiFace the Pirate
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Probably, but like I said, I didn't look and by the time I got back (There was that missing two weeks, you know) it was probably a different body ;)
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well, there's not normally much point in looking.
anything of value, and the shoes are typically missing.
but if you need a trench-coat... it's a good place to start looking.
-RuskiFace the Pirate
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I prefer a motorcycle jacket, myself
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Well, I wear one of thoes on my way to work every day. good impact resistance, but if I had to go on a run, I'd probibly try to sneek a flack vest with plates underneath it or somethin'
-RuskiFace the Pirate
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I like form-fitting body armor.
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do you also like walking arround saying:
"I'm BATMAN!"
??
-RuskiFace the Pirate
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No. I saw it more like the unstable molecule uniforms from the Marvel universe, although without the adapt-to-a-person's-power ability.
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Actually, they have that liquid-that-turns-solid-on-impact stuff for milatary grade armor now. it's kinda bulky, and very heavy, but works really well.
I'm assuming it's a refined version of that for the form fitting.
-RF
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Yeah, gel packs. I remember seeing it when I was going through a friend's copy of the Cannon Companion. You can add them to form fitting, but it makes the armor more noticeable.
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works good though.
still, even if it's just the uniforms from the fantastic four... you know how hot ans sweaty that would get from wearing it all the time?
talk about nasty.
-RuskiFace the Pirate
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hmmm What about two sets and switch them out?
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*shrug* have you ever known a runner to have two sets of bodyarmor?
most of them are lucky if they have enough money left over for two sets of clothes.
-RuskiFace the Pirate
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heh, good point. Although adepts can skimp somewhat in other areas since they don't generally need to keep up with advances in cyberware
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adepts also don't normally have priority A resources.
money runs out fast once you buy a lifestyle and a car...
-RuskiFace the Pirate
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And that DocWagon contract...
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Yup. you get three uses a year, and hope you don't have to use any of them...
LOL
although, if your GM ships you off to the congo, docwagon dosn't help much.
-RuskiFace the Pirate
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Not much use in the Metaplanes, either.
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LOL
yea, they can only keep the meat alive.
don't have much medicine for a burned out mage.
-RuskiFace the Pirate
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acturly the fantastic 4 uniforms kept what was soosed to be warm warm and what was sposed to be cool cool
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Yeah, I remember that: Power adaptive, armor, and environmental insulation. way cool.
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I was always impressed that they were practicly bullet-proof.
seems like the super-suits in and of themselves could make them super-heros.
-RuskiFace the Pirate
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They might stop a bullet, but I'd guess there'd still be bruising, possibly a cracked rib or two. Painful, but definately better than bleeding to death.
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still have to worry about internal bleeding.
but there's something to be said for material that can streach a mile, and withstand supernova heat.
-RuskiFace the Pirate
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True.
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you know, chainmail had that effect on midevil warfare.
you couldn't be stabbed to death while wearing it. but you'd still bleed to death internally in a couple of hours.
-RuskiFace the Pirate
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Yeah, but medical knowledge and technology has come a long way since then. At least now, doctors know how to treat internal injuries.
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only if you go in and let them.
and most shadowrunners... don't go to the doctor unless he's in the T-bird waiting for them, and providing supressive fire.
-RuskiFace the Pirate
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In other words: a PJ
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Well, it dosn't have to be a PJ.
Docwagon or crash-cart will do that for you.
and ocasionally a street-doc takes up running, and they could be a part of your team.
if you have a good fixer,who likes you, they could bring one on-board for you.
-RuskiFace the Pirate
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Well, a PJ is combat search and rescue. Isn't that basically what DocWagon medics are? Only real difference is DocWagon employees are technically civilians
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Yea. that's what I was getting at.
but still. most runners don't like their street-doc.
-RuskiFace the Pirate
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Would you like someone who's only really useful when the drek hits the fan?
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most people would. but then again, thoes types of people are expencive to hire.
street-mussle comes much cheaper.
-RuskiFace the Pirate
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tue. A meat shield drawing fire away from me increases my odds of not needing a medic.
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and, they seem to want to 'prove their toughness' by shouting, shooting two guns at once, and generally drawing all sorts of attention to themselves.
so, give the devil his due...
-RuskiFace the Pirate
hire one show-off, and you'll save yourself a huge amount of newyen on armor costs.
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Heh, And on ammo. I can take the time to aim with my silenced pistol.
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that's right!
aim a couple of times, and it's amazing how far your ammo with streach.
-RuskiFace the Pirate
(once had a hacker with a pistols of 4. killed more stuff than anyone else, because he would aim three times before every shot.)
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I let other people take the hits. Me, I'll just sit back and take potshots into the fray. (From behind cover, of course.) I was in a Star Wars one-shot awhile back and we were attacking a landing platform (No ship around, fortunately). Myself (I was playing a scoundrel/outlaw tech) and the Noble ran under the platform, climbed up and took potshots at the goons. There was someone on the other side doing the same, and I think I actually did more damage than the Jedi. (That whole sneak attack bonus and all.) :)
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even if you are all standing in a line though, no cover, no bonus; you can do more with one shot than most people can do with 5 if you take the time to aim.
-RuskiFace the Pirate
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Yeah, you can negate those pesky penalties for a called shot.
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or, better yet, get your target numbers so low that ever die is a hit.
-RuskiFace the Pirate
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which, naturally, can bring even a weapon that does L damage up to Deadly.
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and, because you don't have to worry about deviding it between 50 diffrent shots; you can dump your entire combat pool into one big lump.
-RuskiFace the Pirate
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Although it does help having a little extra to dodge in case somebody does decide to shoot you.
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correct me if i am wrong but doc wagon empolyees and crashcart ppl dont go jumping out of perfectly good airplanes either
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depends on if you called in a high threat responce, and if you are a 'platinum' customer.
they won't breach into corp teratory, but if you are off of corp grounds, they'll drop into the middle of a gang war to pull you out.
-RuskiFace the Pirate
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Personally, I'd rather not be in the middle of a gang war in the first place.
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well, yea. that's where docwagon comes into play... to REMOVE you from that situation that you find so uncomfortable.
oh, and the help replace any bodily fluids that you may have lost while waiting for them to show up.
-RuskiFace the pirate
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Ruski, I do have to correct you on one point: If you aim beyond one Combat Phase, you cannot apply combat pool to that attack without losing the aim bonus. Addtionally, you may only aim a number of times equal to half your skill level for the respective weapon.
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well, normally i'm fast enough to get two actions in one combat phase.
I didn't actually know about the 'half the skill level bit', I only knew about the maximum of '3' where the aiming maxes out so it goes something like:
Pass 1:
Simple Aim
Simple Aim
Pass 2:
Simple Aim
Simple Fire
and that's all there was.
I'd take my four dice, add four combat pool, and have target numbers of like 2 or three.
-RuskiFace the Pirate
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Yeah, every pass is another combat phase, so you couldn't use your combat pool anyway. Still, rolling 4 dice against target number of three isn't that shabby when you consider all the dodgin' you can do with the extra combat pool.
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Err... Ruski, what's up with your character's 1337 5P34|<?
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You ever read Megatokyo?
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Nope!
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And here we all thought you were a man of letters...
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bew4re the necrowombicon
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Letters yes, but 1337 5P34|< is mostly numbers :P
I spend too much time reading defunct Shadowrun manuals to do anything else :P
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You should check out megatokyo- it's a great-looking webcomic. The artwork is incredible, and the storylines (although a little manga-ish) are believable and most of the time really funny.
You might not like it, but you'll never know if you don't try.
Megatokyo (http://www.megatokyo.com/)
(watch for Largo, that's the character Ruski's guy is based on)
-kv
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They never did figure out what Largo's Cool Thing did...
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Not yet, anyway.
I'm betting it does something awesome like transports them into video-game worlds.
Oh, and hey- ROOTless- what does "WWBMD?" mean? What would ___ ____ do? Who is BM?
-kv
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That would be cool.
BTW, I wonder what the deal with Miho is.
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Well, I was going to just make Raymond speak gibberish, but speaking in L337 was close enough to gibberish, so I figured I'd just write out his conversation with that.
-RuskiFace the Pirate
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Overclock my Athlon for me, would ya? :P
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I could if you want.
you going to invest in some liquid cooling, or do you want to see it catch on fire?
-RuskiFace the Pirate
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Overclocking? I'd invest in the liquid cooling system
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well, there's other ways... you can get some serious airflow modding to work for low levels of overclocking... or thermal baffles (cost almost as much as liquid cooling though) they have freeon-laced refrigeration cases that work pretty good...
liquid cooling seems to be the most bang for the buck though.
-RuskiFace the Pirate
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Yeah, I had friends who liked overclocking. I was never a serious enough computer gamer to really need that extra fraction of a hertz speed.
Although I probably should have invested in a better cooling system. I lived in Vegas at the time, and the AC liked to go out sometimes.
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yea, if the air you are pumping into the case is only marginally cooler that the furnace inside it... you could have problems.
-RuskiFace the Pirate
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At least I'm not there anymore. Now, my computer supplements the heater in my room (I love Minnesota.)
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yea... really cold air works good for that.
-RuskiFace the Pirate
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And it's sitting next to the window.
I've had a computer in my room so long I can't sleep anymore without the comforting hum of the fans.
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they make quieter fans...
but *shrug* I know lots of people that sleep better with ambient noise.
-RuskiFace the Pirate
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Unless I'm going away for at least a few days, I leave my computer running. If I'm in my room, I have my entire music playlist going on Random.
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ahh... nothing like 100 gig of random wave files to keep the ambiant noise going for ya'...
-RuskiFace the Pirate
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I don't quite have that much. more like 150 hours' worth. Didn't have a very good internet connection for a while, and nothing in my room. I really need to get a wireless network card so I can bum access somewhere.
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Yea... I'd suggest getting airsnort as well; so you can break any encryption that your neighbors may be running.
-RuskiFace the Pirate
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Well, my dad may or may not have a wireless network in the house. I just know my room isn't wired unless I go through the phoneline. (I'd much rather use a faster connection, though.
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wouldn't we all.
well, if you've got broadband access somewhere in the house, for the price of some cat-5 cable at home-despot you could probibly pull some through the attic or sub-area and get it to your primary place of computer residence without too much trouble.
-RuskiFace the Pirate
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Well, there's two other computers hooked up. The only problem is that one is the one my parents generally use on the main floor, and the other, in the basement with the Hi-def TV, I fight with my brother over. The only thing I dislike about my room (aside from no internet) is no TV.
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So run a line up and over.
wires are cheap, and they carry so much important information...
-RuskiFace the Pirate
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I would, but there's really no good place to run it without getting in trouble with parents. The 'hub' is on the main floor on the north side of the house, while my room is on the second floor south end. Unless I could route it between the ceiling/floor or through the walls, the wire would cross the front door.
*shrugs* Maybe I should move into the basement bedroom. I think there's a connection in there...
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It's actually not that big of a deal to 'fish' the cable through the walls and such. you can even drop in the nice finish plates if the idea of having a wire sticking out of a hole in the wall is un-apealing to you or yours.
AND when you sell the house, at some point later, you can say "It's got cat5 cable run from one end to the other" that's good for a couple thousand dollars in gained equity. all for the cost of $20 worth of wires and hardware from home depot...
or, a wireless router is about $120, if you prefer the non-invasive network type. (not nearly as fast though)
-RuskiFace the Pirate
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I don't play a lot of online games (Excepting PBP, and a fast connection isn't quite as essential for that) or download (I prefer having the CD's as backup in case my computer crashes) so I probably wouldn't be to disappointed with wireless.
Heck, for awhile, I was using a 14.4 cellphone connection!
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OUCH. unless it's a Phreaked phone, the charge for minutes kills you on that.
-RuskiFace the Pirate
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Free nights and weekends.
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They'll try to nab you for sending data over a voice line too if they can catch you.
-RuskiFace the Pirate
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Haven't done it since I got home.
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well, not much point. at 14.4 you should just snail-mail the internet pages to yourself faster.
14.4 is cool for old style dial up BBS's, but not much else.
-RF
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I read a lot of fanfics.
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well, text ports over pretty easy, but if they happend to draw the high elf on her throne... well... you may have trouble with that.
-RuskiFace the pIrate
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lol, don't have to tell me twice. Fortunately, the fanfic sites I actually like to frequent tend to stick to .txt Easier to ensure universal compatability.
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HTML is pretty universal at this point too...
-RuskiFace the Pirate
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Yeah, well, at least one of the places, the archivist looks through the submissions. She started the archive back when there were dozens of word processer programs in use and asked for txt files to make sure she--and everybody else--could read them.
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ahhh...
ancient history then.
-RuskiFace the Pirate
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Well, it goes back at least to 97. I think that was about the same time I started getting into fanfics, although I don't think I found that particular fandom until a couple years later. (The one story in that fandom I've finished was posted in 2000)
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Semi Retro-posting, but here's some advice.
It's often easier to ask forgiveness than for permission. . .
Tracers work both ways. . .
Incoming fire has the right of way. . .
Does this smell like chloroform to you?
HEAT means never having to say you're sorry. . .
Friendly fire, isn't. . .
Get friendly with the cops, know the judges personally, but always, always, have an alibi anyway.
Chunky salsa is *NOT* a party invite. . .
Never take point.
Keep your enemies close, and your friends closer. . . chances are they'll stop a few bullets. . .
Cut the red wire. . . Cut the red wire. . . Cut the red wire. . . Drek! They're ALL red!!!
If you shift consciousness, and smell something burning. . . chances are, it's probably you . . .
If at first you don't succeed. . . then parachuting is not for you. . .
"How much explosives did you bring? "Ten." "Ten units?" "No ten kilos. . . "
Friends come and go, but enemies accumulate. . .
Having a bad day? Alter your reality by bending your mind on prescription drugs! Better living through Biochemistry.
Eight billion people in the world. Sooner or later, you'll match the description of the criminal on the Trid. . .
It could be worse. . . Your run could have taken you to Alpha Complex . . .
Never trust anyone farther than you can throw them. . . which is why most trolls love dwarves. . .
~~ And the deal with Miho is that she really is the queen of the undead. At least in the sense that she feeds off of social contact. She leads the living dead, the social outcasts. . . A vampire of a different sorts. Their primary objective? Social acceptance or dominance. Revenge for loss of honor on the field of social battle. And she loves to play with people's heads, and when dealing with people like Largo, can you really blame her?
Or I think too much. . .
~~ Curris
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hahahaha Largo.
J00 D34D F00
-RuskiFace the Pirate
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D4 P41|\| !!!
Sir! Are you alright? Do you need a doctor?
3Y3 |\|33|> h3[P !!!
I'm sorry I don't . . .
3Y3 |\|33d j00 t0 g47z d4 d0c70r. 3Y3 g07z s0m3 b4d p4|n 1|\| m4 ch3s7, I n33d m4 p|11z!
Does anyone here speak 1337?
j0.
Heh.
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so, there are now at least 3 Megatokyo fans on this board.
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Four, if you count me even though I haven't said anything yet. ;D
...and usually refrain from 13375p34k
-kv
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It's spreading.
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The thing is, is that 1337 speak was, at one time cool. I wasn't there for it. Now it's dead, and crippled. But I still my run with it. It used to be the smart hackers who used it, but then wannabes, punks, and other drekheads overused it, annoyed people with it, and generally shot up a great cultural event.
Sigh.
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Yeah, I pretty much missed it, too. Somebody tried to show me a few years ago, but it wasn't until I started reading Megatokyo I really figured out how to decipher it.
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Actually, it's a bit of a missnomer that 'hackers' used it.
it's more like; kids who didn't want their parrents to see what they were talking about in chatrooms online used it.
everyone had a watchfull parent or gaurdian who would ocasionally look over their shoulder to see what they were talking about on this 'inter-web-thing', if you wanted to talk about stuff that would make them take away your internet access, then you used L337.
J0 Ch1X0R. W4N7 70 H00X0RZ UP? 1 l1V3 N34R 7H3 M4LL.
D00D, 1M 4 D00D 2, JU57 L0X0R1NG 4 L35B0Z! LOLORZ!
because it used 'numbers' it was assumed that there was some sort of math involved, as opposed to the digital pig-latin that it really was.
it enjoyed a brief stynt on IRC, where people paranoid that '7H3 C0P5' were using B075 to check on things. in reality, no cop would ever go on thoes boards. too much trash to dig through just to find someone who's got a three year old version of photoshop they are willing to trade for porn.
As it turns out, most of the digital security people 'in the know' could crack the pig-latin code, so they could set their filters to look for 'W4R3Z' just as easily as 'Hacked Software' so it really wasn't much of a savings. the only people it worked on were mom's and dad's who couldn't speak pig lattin, or make the connection.
'Real' hackers, speak English, or German. (mostly)
I knew one guy who would try to send code in 'klingon'... but that was a bit too geekey for even the geek-hackers I knew.
-RuskiFace the Pirate (*shrug* I didn't get 'the pirate' title by being able to sail the 7 seas....)
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Or Japanese. All of my programming skills are but a drop in the ocean that all of my asian friends know. . . Indians too for that matter. . .
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I imagine that there's a lot of Indian hackers out there. they got all the key elements, the opressive info-structure, a job culture they are practicly required to 'live' in, and managment/customer base that typically dosn't know enough to follow what they are doing.
however, I've never gotten to know any. the Japanese hackers I knew were more wageslaves than hackers. the punk Otaku over there are more interesed in photoshoping porn of their favorite actors than looking for security holes. (my experience with them, perhaps not the norm)
of course, judging anyone by a steryotype is bound to have inconsistancy built into it, expecially any profession as 'frindge' as 'hacking'
it's not like there is a goverment training class you can go to and become the super-delta-forces-hacker-of-death. almost to a T, most of the hackers I know got their start cracking copyright encryption, because they had more time than money to pay for games; and then went from there.
-RuskiFace the Pirate
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what ruski you never heard of the hush hush gov force called code name net force
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never trust someone that says trust me
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hahahaha, that's one of my old tag-lines.
if someone has to tell you to trust them, that is in fact, the last person on eartn you should be giving your trust to.
-RuskiFace the Pirate
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especially if it's Lando Calrissian.
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no, it's actually almost a universal truth.
(and thoes are pretty rare)
but here's why:
if you DO trust someone, they don't need to ask for your trust, it's already there.
if you DO trust someone, and they have to ask for their own reasons, then there is a reason in there somewhere, perhaps in their own mind; why you wouldn't trust them. perhaps a reason you don't know.
if you don't trust someone, and they are trying to talk you into an activity or idea you don't want to do, and the only way they can think to get you into it is for them to somehow MAKE you trust them... then ther's an alterier motive. there's got to be a reason for their enthusasm, a reason why they need your trust, and even if that reason IS altruistic, really; you sould proceed cauciously, if at all.
or, if you don't trust someone, and they don't need your trust to go forward, they can tell you as much. if it's not necessary, you wouldn't ask for it.
if you are driving down the road,and you run out of gas, and someone else pulls over do you ask them for a cup of sugar? no, because you don't need it. and if they didn't give you a cup of sugar, would you still get a ride from them to the gas-station?
the sugar isn't needed. if the trust isn't needed, they wouldn't ask for it.
if you find yourself on the flip side of that argument, asking for trust won't get you anywhere. if anything, it'll just make the people involved less likely to trust you. what you should ask for, is for the people in question to trust themselves, and to make a command decision if they want to be involved or not. if they decide not to trust you, at least you offered to help. some times people need to make their own mistakes, and learn from it.
so, anyways, don't trust me on this: listen to the logic and trust yourself.
at any rate, I can't see a situation where it WOULD be a good idea to trust someone who says: "trust me"
you may have to go allong with them if the situation warrants it, but I'd suggest going cauciously, if at all.
-RuskiFace the Pirate
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More Static Advice, From decker M, AKA Duck.
ED's NOTE: The opinion's expressed here are not necessarily the views of sane individuals anywhere. As a matter of fact we suggest you take everything with a grain of salt.
(Actually I recommend several grains of salt... and the obligatory lick of lime and shot of Tequila!... and who is the 'ED' person anyway?
Current Commentary
We all know the important axioms...
Never make a deal with a dragon,
Never trust an elf...
These are all well known and well proven rules to follow, and the reasons are obvious and numerous. But what about some of the lesser known rules? What about the ones we've learned the hard way? Are they any less important?
So-- putting my years of experience to use I will share with you the other great axioms of the awakened world.
NEVER polka with a Troll
(unless the floor is reinforced and even then err on the side of caution) Slam dancing is probably a bad idea as well, and unless you're a glutton for punishment, lay off the mosh pit.
Know your blood type
Trust me, you live longer this way. If you're prone to violence and often in need of transfusions, consider getting it tattooed to your chest.
Make sure at least one team member has either the same blood type or is a universal donor.
When hiring a mage to back you up, make sure he/she knows at least one healing spell. Believe me, this is not the sort of thing you want to find out in the middle of a ‘situation'
You can never have too much ammo.
Get rich quick schemes really do work -
if you're the one selling the scheme.
(There's a reason its called a scheme)
The food they serve in "Ork restaurants" is a joke to be used on tourists.
Trust me, if you ever get a good home cooked "Ork Meal" its going to look a lot more like meatloaf than something you pulled out from under a dead log.
No matter what people tell you, dragons do have a sense of humor.
You just won't get it. Mainly because you, and what happens to you is what we would call the punch line, but also because well- they're dragons.
Five letters to always keep in mind when doing business with anybody in the awakened world - SETUP.
It usually is, and you're usually the one being setup.
We all know not to pick fights with things that are bigger than we are, that goes without saying.
What I'm telling you is- you can't tell who's bigger than you are until they thoroughly trounce you.
Shape shifters can appear smaller, bugs have friends and magic is the great equalizer.
You can't win, you can't get even and now more than ever- you can't get out of the game.
And so I leave you until the next time. Remember that everybody's your friend when you're buying and nobody likes soggy drinks. (And trust me about the Troll)
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I heard one time:
"There's a sucker in every game. If you can't figure out who it is, it's YOU."
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I hear that.
RuskiFace the Sucker.
oh yea, and a peace of advice to anyone trying to get DAHM to do stuff without Ingo posting: read back a couple of pages.
-RuskiFace the Pirate
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What is DAHM?
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the Knowbot that runs everything for this particular corp.
-Mark
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Was it just keyed for his voice? Or could any of us say the 'catchphrase'?
Would we even know it? Seeing as how he would have to say it out loud to let us know what it was?
-kv
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well, it may not be keyed to his voice, but you wouldn't know about it. I was just pointing out that if you really wanted it all fixed in a hurry you should talk him into fixing it.
just manually shutting off the last two halon valves, and having the hearth spirit pull out the gas is a good way to go too though.
perhaps then, you'll have some time to do actuall hacking before the guards breach the door.
-Ruski
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Yeah, I'm hoping we won't suffocate before they have time to kill us. ;D
Actually, I'm not worried about that part. I think we'll pull everyone out of the room, and look like heroes for half a second before they realize we're not supposed to be there.
THEN I'll be worried. ;D
-kv
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If your plan involves moving a body, make sure someone in the group has a van or at least a car with a trunk.
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perhaps my loyal flock of joy-girls will do anything for us... even... MURDER!
hahahahahahaha
or, perhaps we should go out the back exit, and see if they notice...
-Ruski
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A friend will help you move, a best friend will help you move a body.
alternately
a friend will bail you out, a best friend will be sitting next to you in the cell saying, 'Dude, that was awesome!'
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hahahahahaha, now ain't THAT the chip truth.
or, one step better, sitting in jail with you saying something allong the lines of
"... Okay, that didn't work out exactly how we planned, but I've got another idea! I'll pretend I'm sick, and when the guard comes over..."
LOL
-RuskiFace the Pirate
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just a bump to keep this going whatever it is
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People you don't want to piss off:
The fast food clerk: He'll spit in your food.
The fast driving cop: He'll give you a ticket.
The fast talking salesman: that super deal won't be.
actually... if you can just avoid those people all together, you'll be better off.
-Ruski
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Read the siggy...
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A dove in hand may be worth two in the bush...
but three in your pockets are even better.
-RuskiFace the Pirate
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You don't need to reload grenades. . .
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"you can get a lot farther with a kind word and a gun than a kind word alone"
-Al Capone
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"Diplomacy is the art of saying 'Nice Doggy!' until you can find a rock."
-Will Rogers
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SOme of these kind remind of of a line from kiss kiss bang bang..
Main character is doing the russian roulette interigation method.. loads the revolver with a bullet, starts yelling at the guy to start talking, then spins it. guy claims doesnt know anything, puts the gun to his head, click, "BANG!"
WHAT THE HELL! WHY DID YOU DO THAT!
That shouldnt have happened! Theres only like a 6 percent chance the bullet was in there!
SIX PERCENT! Where the hell did you get that!!
THere are six Cylinders so a 6 percent chance of it going off!
Where the hell did you learn Math!!
(its along those lines, im probally missing a good bit..)
would work good as an interrigation method.. have 2 guys or more, doit on the guy you know knows nothing, then say i'll prove it and go to the guy who does know something.. be spilling his gut out with everything he knows.. and probally into his pants some as well.
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I prefer Sean Connery's methods.
"Tell me! What's the matter? Can't talk with a gun in your mouth?, Here, let me open it up for you a little bit!"
-RuskiFace the Pirate
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Kiss Kiss Bang Bang is an awesome movie. It made me like Robert Downey Jr. again. Which is no mean feat, in and of itself.
Also: "I... I peed on it."
"What?"
"Can they get my DNA from--"
"No- you do not get to ask questions. Why, why in poo-perfect heaven, did you urinate on the corpse?"
-kv
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"Oh thank god you have a gun.. I thought it was a gay thing...... Sorry.."
..... Are you ok?