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General => Role Playing Games => Topic started by: Gabriel on October 24, 2005, 12:34:38 PM
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Alright, here's the thing: I'm looking for electronic copies of the new Warhammer Fantasty Role Playing 2nd Edition books. I've already bought paper-copies of all of the published books to date, but I am really trying to get some electronic copies so that I can work on modules and other game-related stuff at the office. Can you imagine that my boss doesn't like walking by my cubicle and seeing 5 books spread out on my desk all having to do with the Old World??? What a prick. Anyway, if any of you can help me out with this, I would appreciate it.
Gabriel
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http://thepiratebay.org/search.php?q=warhammer&other=on
any of thoes look good?
-RuskiFace the Pirate
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ROFL.
As a side note: I love painting miniatures, and the first time I tried it, I discovered I was a natural. I got the shadows, the details, the highlights, and the overall color scheme just perfect on my first piece, which I still remember -- it was an evil cleric in a grim reaper robe with a scythe.
I can't do Warhammer, though. I'd love to, but it's just too much to handle with the fairly high prices and the long painting times... and the terrain can really take quite a while to prepare. I find I get a better payoff playing excellent boxed strategy games such as Memoir '44 or Hybrid[/b]. Still, I use minis for traditional RPGs, and I love those large foam terrain hexes that some GW games use (you cut out 2"W x 1"H or so foam hexes, primer them, put a bit {or a lot} of model terrain on the top, insert a magnet to hold the miniatures during play, and repeat a dozen or so times for a rockin' , 3-D, professional-looking game board you can put together on the fly).
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Yea. Use to use thoes old hex maps from battletech all the time.
the warhammer ones are a bit over the top for me. (don't have the time or the money to put into them like that) but I'm still impressed with thoes who do.
for me, i'd just buy the biggest baddest 6' tall mo-fo out there, dip him in blue primer, and say "he fell in a lake. he's all wet, and he's on his own; so he gets the squad bonus for common paint theames."
LOL
but that's just me trying to cheat the system.
(oh, and I wouldn't really buy a figure, i'd just dip my brother in primer, and tell him to stand still.)
-RuskiFace the Pirate
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It would be cool, at just the right moments, I could have him reach down and eat the other game peaces.
-RuskiFace the Pirate
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Hoi Ruski,
Thanks for the help, but no, none of those are the books I am looking for. Those are for 40K, not the role-playing game. S bummer for me for the time being I guess. :-\
Gabriel
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I got a couple more places I can check, that's just an easy one to hit up from work.
-RuskiFace the Pirate, master of the seedy underbelly of the Matrix
ahh... fun with IRC.
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so gabe, you're gonna try and run somehting agian? and what do you think of the updated rules? I think they did a great job at cleaning things up and slowing down progression so you won't be 3rd career by session friggen 2.
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Actually, chummer, I've already run some games with this system. I have to agree about them slowing down the progression, although it may be a bit too slow. However, I think it balances A LOT better this way. We've gone through several games, and we are maybe, half way to two thirds of the way through career #1. And since I am the only mage in teh group, it's going to be even slower for me later on. Of course getting access to ALL of the spells at second career helps, but with no way to cast the really big ones, I'll still have to progress to even try, which is good.
Of course, I'm still looking for PDF files ont eh rule books. I've gotten all of them in hard copy accept Karak Azgul, so I don't concider it piracy in the slightest. ;)
Gabriel
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lol awesome! you got Tony and Mona in the group? or is it some new people?
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Tony, Mona, Sarah, Josh (Tony's little brother on trial membership) and me. Personally, I would like to play more than once a month, but Tony has become a drama king and gotten himself a family. That bum. But oh well. I still have fun when we get to play. Of course, I'm STILL looking for a PDF of that book...
Gabriel
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And since I am the only mage in teh group, it's going to be even slower for me later on.
Yeah, a bit, but nothing like what it was in ye Olde Gayme (of Warhammer). I think there are actually more expensive careers than magicians now.
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That whole thing about being a specialist wozard in 1st edition was just ridiculous. Who could afford 800Xp to TRY to learn a 4th level spell??? That was ludicrous.
Gabriel
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heh, you should look at vampire hunter, ee gad
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Actually, I have, but it's been a while. The thing I like about the basic careers now is that you have to spend about 800XP per career to get going. That evens things out and makes it much more fair for starting PC's. For example, I had 2 PC in WFRP1, an Alchemist's Apprentice and a Mercenary. Guess which one took me 6 months to get out of a basic career???
Gabriel
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hmmm, would it be the alchy? Hell, I just hit my first advanced career. Took me forever to get to vamp hunter. Plus our GM is making us get all the trappings too, so that's not making it any easier.
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Actually, Alchemist Apprentice took something like 600XP or so. Mercenary took about 1300XP. I may have the numbers wrong, but the proportions are about right. VERY unbalanced. As for trappings, Yeah, I'm making then do that too.
Has your GM given any magic items yet?? I have yet to give anyone anything accept a potion. The way the books are written, it makes it seem as if magic is incredibly rare now.
Gabriel
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'except'
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. You got me on that one fair and square. ;)
Gabriel
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Just a set of chaos armor that jos got "persuaded" to put on. His char will be disapearing next game and he's making a new one.
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Great Sigmar's Bunions!!!!! You have to tell me the story behind THAT one.
Gabriel
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Somehow, that sounds like a failed (well, botched, more like) stupidity check.
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Strangley enough, it may have been on purpose. The group of guys Jester games with are the same group of guys, with the exception of a few players, as those I used to game with. If it would be good for a story, any one of them might have done it on purpose. I'm not saying that it's likely, just that it's possible.
Gabriel
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no no, not on pourpose. We killed a chaos warrior and while inspecting the corpse the armor started talking to Josh and he failed a WP check and Daffy Duck'd the thing. You didn;t hear any of us complaining. My first thougth, I'm goin to witch hunter, was when I'd have to kill him
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LOL!!!! Daffy Ducked it!! I can see that happening.
Gabriel
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Daffy Ducked it?
-kv
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Yeah Daffy Ducked it. That is to say, and I qupte the master here, "Mine! Mine! Mine!" & "Consequences shmonsequences, as long as I'm filthy rich..." Or in other words, to greedily and LOUDLY grab some of the reasure and hold onto it as if it were the most wonderfull thing in the universe evn though you are getting REALLY messed up using it.
Just ask Jester about the Daffy Duck sword one of his chummers had. ;)
Gabriel
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Thou shalt not covet...
-RuskiFace the Pirate
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lol, yea. One of my players had this problem of looting the corpses before the fighting was over. So I had him find a sword that had a chance of making him run from combat blindly if he failed a WP roll. And the problem was he didn't want to get rid of it. One of the enchantments of the sword. Let's just say he stopped looting during combat :)
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Tell him about the "natural 20" anvil thing. I just love that story.
Gabriel
PS - Priests of Loki should NOT get swords like this.
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LOL
"Okay, I attack!"
"You Kill the Orc! there are four more to go!"
"I Search his body!"
(Rolling sounds)
"Hmm... sory. you failed your check. you run screaming from combat like a little girl."
-RuskiFace the Pirate
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But you have to make the Daffy Duck scream when you do. Or else it's just plain silly. ;)
Gabriel
PS - Can you get me an mp3 of the Wilhem Scream, Ruski??? I can't seem to find one able to download.
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I'll look, but it'll have to be later. I try to keep the P2P stuff off of the work comptuers.
-RuskiFace the Pirate
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Thanks, chummer.
Gabriel
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Tell him about the "natural 20" anvil thing. I just love that story.
Gabriel
PS - Priests of Loki should NOT get swords like this.
um, damn. I gotta ask jake about that. I don't remember...
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I do. Jake was playing a priest of Loki, and he ended up with a freaky magical sword. I thought it was the Daffy Duck sword, but I may be mistaken. Anyway, whenever he rolled a natural 20, an anvil would drop on the head of the bad-guy he was fighting. I can just see tht happening now...
Gabriel
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now THAT'S a cool weapon.
-RuskiFace the Pirate
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Yeah, unless you're under that anvil.
Gabriel
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So, what's an anvil do; dammage wise?
-RuskiFace the Pirate
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oh god, I remember that sowrd now, not the daffy duck thing. I wasn't running the anvil game. It was a sword given to him by Loki so it was all chaotic and crazy. Friggen hilarious.
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what I want to know is what happened when you rolled a natural '1'
-RuskiFace the Pirate
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I don't recall, I'll ask jake and see if he remembers
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So, what's an anvil do; dammage wise?
-RuskiFace the Pirate
Natural 20 = Anvil on Head = DEAD!
Gabriel
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the sword was actually more like a wand of wonder. If he critted something crazy would happen. If it was a crit failure then it could happen to him or the poeple around him. IE the party...
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awsome. i'm so going to steal that for something.
-RuskiFace the Pirate
I don't know what yet, but it's going to show up.
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Wild magic surge in a high Background Count area???
Gabriel
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A mage who spent their entire childhood watching warnerbrothers cartoons.
-RuskiFace the Pirate
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Anyway, something like that only really works in D&D. Any other system and I think it would just not fit in well.
Gabriel
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Yea. adding something that crazy only works in the really abstracted game worlds.
-RuskiFace the Pirate
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hehe, I couldn't see it in shadowrun at all
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It also wouldn't work well in Star Wars, Sereniety, Warrhammer, Battletech, or any of the even remotely reality based games.
could probibly work it into GURPS...
-RuskiFace the Pirate
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Well, yeah, but in GURPS, you can create a semi-sentient purple patch of mould with psionic abilities as a player character. I should know, I did once.
Not with the intention of playing it mind you, just to do it.
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I know GURPS has a flaw called Weirdness Magnet: Deities walk up to you and say "Hi."
My boyfriend had a character with it and, when he was about to be killed by a bunch of goblins or orks or something, the GM liked the character, so a demon walked through the middle of the mess, said "How's it going?" to my boyfriend's character and wandered off.
The orks ran screaming.
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Oh dear me, not that one.
Only character I've ever seen with that disadvatage ended up with the wierdest entities telling him about their personal problems (like he was their bartender or something). IIRC, the list included (but was not limited to) 2 lesser divinities, an angel, several daemons, a talking dog, a xenophobic elf, an NSA codebreaker, a bioship, and, on one memorable occasion, himself, 50 years older and Illuminated.
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ROTFL!! That's awesome
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Actually, I wonder if it was ever a disadvantage?
-RuskiFace the Pirate
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Was his name Mike Calahan by any chance???
Gabriel
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Nope. but his first name does start with an M
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I'm not a big fan of 'flaws' that mostly turn out to be a favor to the PC's.
Like: Caffeen Addiction as a flaw in shadowrun.
or, alergic to peas.
*shrug*
-RuskiFace the Pirate
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heh. My game's got two characters with Impulsive, one is vindictive, and a fourth bloodlust.
Me and the Rigger (We're the two impulsive ones) have nearly killed each other because of it...although the way things are going, the GM might insist on adding vindictive to our characters.
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now thoes are good flaws. easy enough for the GM to add flavor to the run, and harsh enough to cause trouble at least once on a one/run basis.
I just don't like the flaws you use to ballance out all your whiz increased attributes / munchkin whatever stats to be something that never comes up.
-RuskiFace the Pirate
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Well, I did make her allergic to penicillin. the GM decided it'd be an uncommon substance do to the medical advances, but it is a common allergy.
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well, exactly. I mean, yea; it's a real allergy, but how is that going to effect game play? how many villians are going to have a penacillin laced sword? it would be cooler if you were just alergic to 'mould' in general, at least then you wouldn't be able to visit your chummers with a low lifestyel kuz their place was full of it.
I think a flaw should be something that can come up once pr. adventure, for every point it's worth.
-RuskiFace the Pirate
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*shrugs* well, considering how often I've been blown up, any benefits from the extra build points really haven't kicked in. Anyway, when I did it, it didn't really occur to me penicillin wouldn't be an 'antibiotic of choice' in the Sixth Wold. Figured it'd come up when she got hurt and had to go to the hospital.
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Oh, well; I'm not raggin on YOU exactly. mostly it's the people who build munchkins. they seem to like to use the weak sauce flaws, and the ultra-powerfull edges.
if you got alergic to pennacillin, and then double jointed as it's accompanying edge... no big deal.
it's when people are alergic to pennacillin, and they get 'lightning fast reflexes' to complament their level 3 move by wire system.
like they need more dice to go first. *shrug*
-RuskiFace the Pirate
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Let's see, the flaws on that character were impulsive and the penicillin allergy. I think I used the build points to give her an extra point of Intelligence (Even numbers are much easier to figure knowledge/language skills) and astral chameleon. Doesn't do as much for an adept as a mage, but I figured it'd explain why no one figured out she was Awakened until after she'd inadvertently boosted some of her skills. (Her mom would have insisted she become a Healer.)
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Ahh yes, avoiding notice by one's own family. often a overlooked aspect of roll-playing.
LOL
actually, most RP'ers tend to cut out the whole family angle, having their family destoryed in some cataclysmic event that prevents them from having to think up something more interesting.
I applaud anyone who writes a family into their charichter.
-RuskiFace the Pirate
(that right there, would be a flaw worth an extra build point to me)
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Well, she lost her parents, but her two brothers are still alive. One's a decker in Minneapolis (They keep in touch, but Shade wanted to get out on her own) and the other has a legit job back East. Her mother was also Awakened, but used her magic as a Healer with one of the hospitals.
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That's a good backstory.
I wish more of my PC's would get into that.
-RuskiFace the Pirate
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the GM required it. Although I do like coming up with a backstories. It helps me create a more balanced character and gives a reason she starts with a 6 in some skill or doesn't have many combat-oriented adept powers.
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I'm not a big fan of 'flaws' that mostly turn out to be a favor to the PC's.
Neither are we, so we made sure this one was a disadvantage. Trust me.
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Cool. I'm glad to hear that it was inconvienent, and provided entertainment for the rest of the group. that's pretty much the best use of flaws ever.
LOL
-RuskiFace the Pirate
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One of the reasons I try to stick to flaws that A) I feel I can role play and B) aren't GM controlled ("Mysterious Cyberware?")
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I've always found it funny that players in our group who take the "distinctive style" flaw rarely use it, (except when I made Zach take it), and those in our group who don't take it usually deserve it. ;D
-kv
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one of the coolest thingsd I've seen for a backstory in this game with disads was gabe. He took dependents. So he has a little sister he has to take care of. Really cool. But I've also heard people do stuff like take a gimp leg disad, then take amputee on the same leg and just buy a cyber leg. If I was running that game I'd kick that person's ass
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I used to make almost all of the Shadowrun characters for people who played in our group. I knew the rules better than most, and I would give them a good range of skills for thier playing styles.
Depending on what players I made characters for, I included flaws that would actually come up in thier playing style.
For Noah, I used 'distinctive style' because every combat goes the same for him- he fights them hand-to-hand every chance he gets and when he can't do that, he shoots them (usually with two pistols at the same time)
For a player named Johnny, who was impulsive and used to the MMORPG style of "I die... now I'm back!" he used to do really stupid and impulsive things all the time. He once grabbed two halves of some corpses he had cut in half with his axe, took them outside and threatened the cops that he would kill his 'hostage' if they didn't let him go.
He got the impulsive flaw. I also didn't waste a lot of points on his character's intelligence score. ;D
-kv
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Oh, man. That's awesome
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If by awesome, you mean really funny, then yes.
If by awesome, you mean well-thought out, reliable, or good for paychecks, then no, probably not. ;D
Yeah, it was very funny. We still talk about it to this day.
One time he decided to sneak some weapons onboard a passenger train by taking the bag to the check-in and saying to the clerk "How much to get this bag on the transport?" The clerk told him $15 for a small bag, $45 for a large bag, to which he responded "No, I don't think you understand- I got Illegal Shit in here!"
-kv
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lol, that's funny! Dude's nuts
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one of the coolest thingsd I've seen for a backstory in this game with disads was gabe. He took dependents. So he has a little sister he has to take care of. Really cool.
Thanks, Jester. I ruled in my games taht anyone who took Dependant had to give up 20% of all money from any source (runs, thefts, muggings, etc.) to care for the person who depended on them. I had Dependant 4, so 80% of ALL my drek wne to taking care of Srah (my sister). About 5 games into the campaign, I ended up so broke, tha the Wolf shaman had to laon my money to buy BULLETS!!! Now how fragged up is THAT???
As for destinctive style, I have a runner in my group right now who has it in spades, and didn't take the flaw. He will have to pay the price for using the style so much, but I think that will balance not actually HAVING to get the flaw. No need to if he's already roll-playing it. He is an ex Vatican special agent who had some run-ins with the bugs in Chicago. Long story short, he's in Seattle now and still wears his priest collar at all times, carries a bible and a roserie with a large crucefix on it. A monofilament whip is hidden in the crucefix, and the effigy of Jesus is the weight on the end of the whip. Pretty fraggin' destinctive if you ask me.
Gabriel
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If by awesome, you mean really funny, then yes.
Yes, that is how I meant it.
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Well, some of my PC's I just like to play destinctive and addictive... just for fun.
for example: raymond, could certanly qualify for the 'addicted to caffeen' flaw, but he dosn't actually have it. *shrug*
some if that is just fun with rollplaying.
-RuskiFace the Pirate
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The thing with flaws is, it's all too easy to play them. How many players do you know should've given their characters Oblivious?
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HAHAHAHA
yeaaaaaa...
-RuskiFace the Pirate
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How about both oblivious and impulsive?
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jester was addicted to twinkies but didn't have the flaw :jester:
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Now that is a nice combination. Have you ever read the Clue Files, AJ????
Gabriel
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Yeah, I have. Wish there were more.
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We all do.
Although, in the next few days, I should have a chance to write up our latest run/comedy of errors, entitled "Jungle Fevers"
You couldn't make this stuff up- one bad idea after another. ;D
-kv
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I think that goes for most of them.
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Well, we ran out of time, so I didn't make them walk out of the Congo...
-RuskiFace the Pirate
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Hehehehehehe. Ruski is a vnegful (and lazy) GM.
Gabriel
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Hey, it's not my fault his wife wanted him home by midnight-thirty.
Actually, I was kind of happy that we got to skip that part- Ruski sometimes draws out the ending of a run to the point where it's unbearable. (First our jeep would have gotten stuck, and then we would have had to walk, and then tanks would have caught up with us, and then we would have walked some more, and gotten in a fight with a dire gorilla again, and then more tanks, and then we would have gotten to the hot air balloon or whatever, and then we would have been flown back to Seattle, and then we would have been double-crossed, and have to figure out how to get the Johnson, and then we do some legwork, get ready for the second meet, and finally get paid.)
Sometimes it's a good thing when time runs out and we have to cut it short. Sometimes.
-kv
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Sounds like Ruski has the Steven King Syndrome.
Gabriel
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Has a hard time ending? Not that I don't love my brother or enjoy the games he puts together, but sometimes it gets a little drawn out.
I don't know- I'm supposed to run the game next month (I figure we might be switching off between all of us, so everyone has a chance to play, and everyone gets to GM sometime, so we can have multiple views, different games, and everything), and I'm sure they would have things to bitch about in my games as well.
Hmmm... I should think about it and figure out what they would have problems with, and then try and manipulate it so those factors aren't present. Hmmm... interesting idea.
-kv
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Just do what I do, ask the players how they liked the game. Just wait a day or two before you do it, that way they've had time to think about it and will give you an honest answer.
Gabriel
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well, time always helps get things rolling.
I try to have three phases in a game:
Legwork (getting the job, getting the info, and any mini-pre runs that need to take place)
Action (getting into and out of said place)
and closing time. (getting paid, and spending your phat lute!)
-Ruski
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And getting the injured to a hospital?
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Hospitals?? Those are for wimps with SIN's. Give me a black clinic any day. ;)
Gabriel
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Nah, They just typically hire one of the colorfull street-docs to patch them up and pump em' full of antibiotics so they won't die.
typically you can get them to come over for a case of cheap wiskey, and a couple thou...
-RuskiFace the Pirate
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Or you can do "favors" for them in exchange for services rendered. One of my best Level 2 contacts was a street doc that I would steal medical supplies for. Worked out rather well.
Gabriel
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Yea. I've bought many a streetdoc service with the supplys pilfered out of the back of a docwagon van or T-bird...
-RuskiFace the Pirate
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In the Old World? I doubt it.
Topic, people.
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Yeah, has ANYONE found those PDF's yet????
Gabriel
PS - And as for the Olde World, medical supplies there would be a leech, several dirty knoves, and a bandage that's been passed down for several generations. :-\
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the mould acts like a type of disenfectant!
-RuskiFace the Pirate
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And maggots'll take care of any gangrene.
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Like, ROOTless said, topic.
-kv
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anyone seen any old world swag that was in refrence to the desert combat campaigns put on by the big 10?
-RuskiFace the Pirate
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nope
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That would actually be kind of cool... I wonder...
Hey, Gabe, did you ever get a chance to talk to your friend with the printing stuff, to see if we could start making some SR Swag?
I know we wanted to do the hats and stuff... but I think it would be cool if we started our own merchandise section. SR shirts and stuff. It could support the Pub, and line our pocke... I mean, go toward many charitable foundations.
Like the Buy Gabe and Kid large amounts of ph47 13w7... foundation. :D
Hahahaha... i was just thinking of a cool shirt: one that says:
"1 h473 13375p34k"... hahahahahhaa....
-kv
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lol, me too
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I was thinking about this the other day (I've had migraines for the better part of a week, so I've had plenty of time sitting in darkened rooms to think), and I really wanted to utilize the wide variety of knowledge we have access to here and make something that'll help the Pub stand out.
I want to make t-shirts to sell for the pub. Nothing really fancy, but I don't really know of a lot of shadowrun shirts you can get in the US- although I'm sure the fans over in Europe probably have some (seeing as how they're more hardcore than we are)
I was thinking of a couple of designs- one that says: "C@FP0W" with a huge color design, and "now in nicotinated and non-nicotinated flavors" written below it. And on the back, in little red stylized writing, the words "Stuffer Shack," as if that were the brand.
I haven't thought it through all the way, but it wouldn't be hard to do a bunch of fake product shirts- krill chips, soy-milk, and whatever else you wanted to do, but I think the thing that would set it apart from other attempts is that we have acces to multi-lingual individuals here, so we can have these same ideas translated into japanese and german (or whatever other languages we wanted)
So.... ubermenschen, what do you think?
-kv
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The only thing I would be worried about would be copyright infringment from FanPro. Once we get that sorted out, It hink we could do it rather easily. I would like to do some hats, but we both know how far THAT got. As for t-shirts I still like the "I'm not fat, I just have titanium bone lacing!" and "Have light pistol, will travel" but that's just me.
But keep this topic going and e-mail me. I am having a BUSY day at the office and may not get a chance to check the pub again until tomorrow.
Gabriel
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Sounds like a cool idea.
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as long as we aren't using any dirrectly refrenced material from shadowrun, it shouldn't really matter, copyright wise.
it's only when you try to make money off of their ideas that you'll get in trouble.
-RuskiFace the Pirate
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But since a lot of shadowrun comes from Blade Runner, William Gibson and Soylent Green, how much can they really pursue it?
I mean, the name "Stuffer Shack" is probably owned by them. But Krill chips? No. C@FP0W!? Probably not- since I made that up myself, using the name that Abbie on NCIS gives her drinks.
Does anyone know who I would have to talk to to figure out how to get permission for this? I'm not going for big-time money, I was just thinking it would be a nice addition to the site, since people are filtering through here with thier SR4 questions.
(Trust me, I understand why they are- I've seen other forums- where someone asks a 4th Edition question, and 35 people respond that they don't know because they haven't read the book or haven't read that far yet. It would appear that we are the experts.)
-kv
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Well, maybe try the 'Contact Us' link over at the FanPro website? Pester them enough, you could probably get an answer.
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Here's the thing, I like the SR logo, the original one with the ram skull and the circuitry scroll behind it. I want to use that as a back ground image or at least subordinate logo somewhere on the shirt, but I don't think that would be feasible for anything we made money off of. Likewise, calling ourselves the Shadowrun Pub is also a coyright issue, since the name is a direct derivitive of the game we all play and discuss on these forums. So I don't really think woudl COULD sell anything we design. That's one of the reasons I wante dto get people to chip in for the hats, no profit equals no liability. If anyone can think of a viable way to adress these issuse, then let's get this started. OTher than that, I really think we may not have a leg to stand on here.
Gabriel
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what you are looking for is a permission for use using copyrighted material.
their default answer for everything is: No.
and rightfully so, the only way they will let you use thier logos and such is if you are using it for 'not for profit fan fiction'
if you want to buy a license to produce product with their logo on it, you could go that way, but the trick is to not say "May I for free" but rather "how much would it cost to..."
then you get the sales department, as opposed to the lawyer department.
but, I'd expect the price of a limited edition hat to run you in the range of $5K
caff-pow, titanium bone lacing, and anything else from 'cyberpunk-ish' origins is fair game.
for example, they wouldn't be able to sue you if you put 'elves do it in the trees' on a hat, because they didn't come up with elves.
if you put 'deckers' 'move-by-wire-level-3' or 'stuffer shack', you are clearly just stealing their ideas for your own personal gain.
-RuskiFace the Pirate
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Well, another option is to start, and hope they don't notice or don't bother to send us a "Cease and Desist!"
I think that's what I'll go with. Of course, that could just be frustration or the migraine talking.
-kv
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I hate migraines. Especially when they make you light/sound sensitive.
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Yeah. This is my first real batch of migraines, and I've been feeling out what I'm capable/not capable of. Apparently I am capable of a full day of school on a migraine, but it means that I have to cuddle with some painkillers when I get home. ;D
But that's okay. We were talking about shirts we're going to make for the Pub. Gabe also mentioned the hat idea that was universally well recieved, but never really got off the ground. So I'll ressurect that too. Hats for the Grid Overwatch Division... and maybe those people who are welcome regulars to the Pub by the time it finally gets there.
I'm going to finance what I can, but a lot of that is going to be mostly design work, and I'll wait until I have some money set aside for it before I start production. Plus, it'll give WizKids a chance to protest if they don't want me doing anything of the kind.
*fingers crossed*
Any shirt suggestions? So far we've got "I'm not fat, I have titanium bone lacing!" "Have light pistol, will travel", "1 h473 13375p34k" (for my buddy Gabe), and the new 'C@FP0W!' shirt.
Anything else?
-kv
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"Geek the Mage"?
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lol, good luck with that stuff. I may be a geek but I don't go flaunting it openly. So I won't be getting any swag
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lol, good luck with that stuff. I may be a geek but I don't go flaunting it openly. So I won't be getting any swag
Ok, now I feel it is my duty to deflate Jester's ego for just a second here. I happen to have been present on several occasions when Jester, I, and several assorted freinds have been walking through the mall and heard Jesters and Klaxon actually arguing over the Mellenium Falcon's hyperdrive in nice loud voices. You can just imagin some of the looks that came our way. I say just get the accessories, Jester. ;)
Gabriel
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It makes .5 past lightspeed.
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the way I look at it, is it's best to hide in plain sight.
being a geek has several consiquences.
people will ask you to fix their computer. (even if you don't know how)
most girls will avoid you.
some girls will flock to you.
most guys will avoid you.
some guys will try to sign you up for their D20 campaign.
all and all, it's more about being honest with yourself.
-RuskiFace the Pirate Geek 4-Eva!
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Everyone is a geek about something, be it cars, sports, or computers and roleplaying games. Just because we know that the Millenium Falcon does .5 past light speed doesn't make us any more or less nerdy than the guy who knows Barry Bond's rookie stats.
It just makes us different. If you talk to anyone long enough, they'll admit to themselves that there is something out there in the whole wide universe that they love more than a little bit, and that they're geeky about.
Of course, there are some people who will shock you. Like my 300 lb. hawaiian friend that I used to work with in a warehouse, who admitted that he had attended several star trek conventions. Even I was geeked out by that. But he did Ren Faire and a bunch of other things, so I shouldn't have been suprised.
But I was.
-kv
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hmm... good point.
but I think it's suppose to be 'manly' to memorize things about monster trucks and football, because they are somehow more 'real' than startrek and star wars.
-RuskiFace the Pirate
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lol, I don't even remember that conversation, but I still don't dress like a geek. I've grown out of the DBZ t-shirt phase.
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I've got a nice french-cuffed shirt on right now.
*shrug*
but with my assortment of 'punisher' T-shirts, I also have a couple of obscure geek ones, and one that says 'No, I won't fix your computer.'
-RuskiFace
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Getting back to my shirts...
This is a mockup of what I had in mind for the C@FP0W! shirt:
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v437/k1d_v1d/CafPow.jpg)
(only better looking and more professionally done)
and on the back:
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v437/k1d_v1d/StufferShack.jpg)
What do y'all think? Suggestions for improvement?
-kv
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looks cool 'nuff.
how about
'Caff-Pow'
the nicoteen laced cafeen drink! get all your vices in one place!
-Ruski
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Well, I kinda like the way the text looks on the "now in nicotineated..." and all that, but I'm not satisfied with the way the C@FP0W! logo looks. I like the colors alright, but it just doesn't look good enough.
Does that make any sense?
The idea behind C@FP0W was that you can use all of today's cigarette sells to promote this drink, i.e. "now in a cool, low nicotine, menthol flavor!"
-kv
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C@F-POW!
'There's Porn on the label!"
LOL
-RuskiFace the Pirate
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the nicoteen laced cafeen drink! get all your vices in one place!
-Ruski
I actually like that as a tag-line. And C@F POW!!!! is my vote for the name presentation. The original was a bit hard to pronounce for us non-leet-erate folks. ;)
Gabriel
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That's why I have the "1 h4373 13375p34k" shirt for you, Gabe. ;D
-kv
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I was hoping for something more like this for the C@FP0W! logo...
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v437/k1d_v1d/caf-pow.jpg)
I wanted a 3D image like that, but with the colors and the fonts I had picked out.
Anyone give me a hand?
-kv
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Actually, I'd like to see a shirt/hat/whatever with the phrase "I am Sixth-World."
I don't think that that would be copyrighted, although there is an associated logo that is copyrighted. (The Six Moons in phase) I'll dig up a link to it later.
Or
"It just ain't a run, 'til the Johnson double crosses you twice!"
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how about "I made a deal with a dragon!"
LOL
-RuskiFace the Pirate
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hahahhaa... I like that one.
"I made a deal with a dragon"
"I trusted an elf"
-kv
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Hey! I represent that remark! ;)
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Hey, it's not my fault that all of your race is shifty and untrustworthy. ;D
-kv
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hahahahaha Dan.
-RF
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"Does anyone here know how to use a grenade?"
hmmm... I like it. ;D
-kv
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okay, that was an inside joke X 1 million.
-RF
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But who wouldn't find it funny once they've heard the story?
Yeah... sales on that shirt probably wouldn't be great. But it would be worth it to immortalize that story.
-kv
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I think I've read that one. Said by a player during a meeting with a Johnson without saying it was ooc?
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Yes. Those were the words that ruined that negitations test. ;D
Of course, same run, slightly later, right after the Johnson said we would be retrieving valuable artwork from a safehouse, he started asking about where he could buy some explosive arrowheads, and then a flamethrower.
I could almost hear the Johnson's fear that we were going to screw up the run crystalize.
-kv
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LOL. I take it this guy was obsessed with Things That Go Boom?
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Yeah, which is akward when Mr. Johnson is sitting there emphasizing how important it is that this painting come back undamaged.
*le sigh*
-kv
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*winces* ouch. so how much nuyen did the group lose out on because of this guy?
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Well, he pretty much always got geeked before the end of the run, so we split up his share, and always came out around even. Except that time. The time he asked "Does anyone here know how to use a grenade?" we probably took a substantial hit.
-kv
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How bad did the run go south?
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"It just ain't a run, 'til the Johnson double crosses you twice!"
LOL!!! I LIKE that one!! Welcome to the Pub, Curris. Damn nice contribution.
ANd the "I dealt a dragon" and "I trusted an elf" shirts sound good too. Any way we could make them all tattered and maybe burnt a bit??? ;)
Gabriel, Trust-Worthy Elf
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Thanks for the welcome, Gabe!
Another good shirt idea would be the "It's XX:XX:XX; do you know where your meat body is?"
The hard part will be getting woven fibers to update continuously on a radio clock. . .
~~ Curris (who knows Exactly where his meat-bod is. . .)
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Hehe, maybe that should go on a towel. ;)
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actually, they have digital shirts.
you can put messages, marques or whatever on them.
(or tie them into a clock)
-Ruski
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REALLY????????? Show me a link.
Gabriel
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http://www.electronicdisplays.com/prodcat/default.asp?cstop=3&pcid=38"Linkey" (http://www.electronicdisplays.com/prodcat/default.asp?cstop=3&pcid=38"Linkey")
(http://www.electronicdisplays.com/prodcat/media/LED%20BADGE%20ON%20SHIRT.JPG)
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http://www.emediawire.com/releases/2004/12/prweb185746.htm (http://www.emediawire.com/releases/2004/12/prweb185746.htm)
thease ones too. but it's a static message. just lights up.
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It just looks like someone photoshopped some cheap LED's onto a picture of a guy wearing a normal shirt.
-kv
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actually, that particular one is a 'nametag'
the e-shirt is a bit cooler. uses fiberoptics and backlight to accentuate what's already on your clothing.
-Ruski
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That would be slightly cooler.
Maybe we could convince them to make one that read "NERPS"
-kv
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and make it glow blue?
-RuskiFace the Pirate
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I always pictured NERPS as one of those logos that changes color and style everytime someone 'revitalizes' it.
So in January, NERPS would be a drawn like a sports logo- in yellow, with flames. By March it would be a light green, and advertise it's eco-friendly corporate practices. By the end of summer, it would be gun-steel-blue, shiny and honed, ready to go.
You might have a brief purple phase, but the big marketing push would be for the red NERPS- coming back with attitude!
-kv
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Lets get some of these for the Caf-Pow!!!!! shirts!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :hyper:
Gabriel
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Wow... that would be expensive. Like... really expensive. More than I'm willing to put up front to manufacture these shirts that no one will probably ever buy. As cool as they may be.
-kv
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Well, a lighting unit is about $30.
you just got to secure the fiberoptics to the inside of the shirt, tack on 'batterys sold seperatly' and get a heat gun to attach them to the clear color enhancers built into the logo.
not too expencive.
little bit more than an average shirt though...
-RuskiFace the Pirate
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Requires special cleaning methods too. Can't just dump it in the washer for a rinse and spin. . .
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no, that's generally a bad idea when batterys are involved.
and Heat+Fibreopticx=bad idea as well.
although we could set it up so the power pack removes... then you'd just have to wash it in cold water.
-RuskiFace the Pirate
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Yeah, and hang dry. What nerd is going to take the time to hang dry a t-shirt???
Gabriel
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Lots. You'd be suprised how attentive to detail nerds can be. . .
Course, we're not talking about clothes, but Nerd Memorabilia. These items are collection pieces, protected by the nerds as charished relics. . .
Dare I say it? Would the nerds pratice Static Safety around such delicate equipment. Don't wear clothes to protect the clothes?
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If it had electronic components...
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LOL, seell those little static bracelets as accessories.
Gabriel
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And those anti-static mats to stand on ;)
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I think you are going overboard here: nerds don't often DO laundry. it'll just sit on the floor of their bedroom untill it's cold, and the smell wears off, then it's good to go again!
-RuskiFace the Pirate
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Now THAT'S a good point.
Gabriel
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hahaha, it's a good and bad point at the same time...
*sniffs shirt*
this one's still good.
-Ruski
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Or in that scenario:
*sniff, sniff* "Ok, it's good again. (Ignores the Cheetos stain on the front)
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Now see, I wish one of you would have a talk with my girlfriend about this. She just doesn't seem to understand. ;)
Gabriel
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my wife dosn't quite understand either... but she dosn't seem to mind if I do it to bluejeans.
-RuskiFace the Pirate
*shrug* go figure
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I might understand it, but I still prefer washed shirts.
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well, sure; most people would.
i mean, if you have a choice, you always go for the cleaner of the two shirts, just washed shirts topping the chart in cleanlyness.
but, when it comes to effort... you have a dirty shirt... that you could wash... or start wearing immediatly... in a geek's mind, it typically equates out to time.
I could wash this shirt... or I could go level my warcraft guy for 45 minutes before work and wear it as is....
-RuskiFace the Pirate
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true. I usually end up waiting until I'm out socks before doing laundry.
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and if you run out of pants first... then it's time for the sniff-test.
-RuskiFace the Pirate
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Or wash them in the shower and hope they dry by morning.
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Ok, so, um, has anyone seen any of those PDF's I've been looking for????
Gabriel
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Umm. I have some WHFRP PDF's but I don't know if they are 2nd or other edition.
Also, I don't know how to send them to you. I have torrent clients, but I think I need a site to host them on. Ditto for a straight download off html. Suggestions?
Anyway, I have:
WarHammer Fantasy Role Play: The Book of the Rat
WHFRP Bounty Hunters
WHFRP Character Sheet
WHFRP Old Sorcery Book
WHFRP Providence Bretonnia
I don't have the main book, for the players or for the GM. . .
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Digital pirate, at your service.
go get an X-drive account, it'll let you FTP a couple of gig back and forth if you are so inclined. (first month free trial, then cancle afterwards)
or, get AIM, MSN, Trillian, or whatever. use the file transfer feature to go P2P and 'hook a brutha' up.
-RuskiFace the Pirate
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Well I have messenger services, but transferring PDF's would take a lot of time. Name a time Gabe, and I will see what I can do. After 11PM central time would be best.
Contact Info
Curris85@yahoo.com
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Thanks Curris. I appreciate it, but I think those are all 1st Edition books. :'( You are, however, the ONLY person who actually tried to help out, so I'm gonna give you a bit of Good Karma for being a chummer.
Gabriel
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Sorry I couldn't be of more use. Good luck and thanks for the Karma!
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I'm not helpin someone who's to cheep to just go and buy the new supliments like my GM did :jester:
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Are you insinuating that I haven't bought the books?? If so, then you have bad data, chummer. I currently own all of the new rulebooks with the exception of the Bretonia book, since I am not going to be gaming in that location. I just want good scans of these books for reference at the office.
Gabriel
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oooohhhhh! ok. my bad :)
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In the immortal words of my big, slow troll adept talking to the mage who just blew a guy up and THEN thought to check the body for something valuable, "And that's how we learn..."
Gabriel
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lol ;D
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It was a good first game.
Gabriel
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I heard it was