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Re:The Next New Century
« Reply #165 on: January 15, 2006, 08:25:55 PM »

You really have to wonder why ANYONE would summon a Force 1 anything. Hell, just manifesting to get its instructions counts as its favor and then it takes off. What a jip.

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Re:The Next New Century
« Reply #166 on: January 16, 2006, 03:15:30 PM »

Having a spirit appear to give it an order does not count as a favor. At least, any reasonable GM wouldn't.

Ever see what 6 force 1 fire elementals do in melee combat? Sure, they don't have but 3-4 dice for attack max, but they get -5 for "friends in melee" for each attack. That's a guaranteed deadly wound 6 times...
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Re:The Next New Century
« Reply #167 on: January 17, 2006, 07:56:16 AM »

Still seems if you hit the lot of them with a car; it'd probibly do the whole bunch of them in.

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Re:The Next New Century
« Reply #168 on: January 18, 2006, 02:24:03 PM »

That depends really on how fast the car was going. To do deadly damage to something considered hardened you'd have to be going really fast. Even disrupting them physically wouldn't stop the summoner from recalling them.

Imagine rolling Conjuring 6 against a target number of 1. You'd smoke the drain 1L easily, you'd only spend 6,000 nuyen on materials (less if you made them yourself) You'd only spend 1 hour drawing the ritual circle, and 1 hour on each elemental to summon, and you'd end up with at least 4-5 favors for each elemental. Significantly more "bang for your buck" considering only rolling 1 or 2 successes on a significantly more powerful force 6 elemental.

The target numbers stay the same if you go for force 2 elementals, twice the time and cost involved but with more potent spirits. So perhaps the best type of "horde spirit" is force 2. They get 4 points of armor against normal weapons, a combat pool of 4, and a natural attack roll of 2. They're generally faster than most unaugmented people with a base initiative of 12.

Remember also, that not only are lower force spirits easier to summon, but they are also less detectable and blend in with their summoner's aura better. I knew a street-mage who always loaded up on high-power spirits, fetishes, foci, the works. But he never realized that packing all that mojo makes you light up like a Christmas tree on the astral. I'd rather have my 3 points of automatic spirit/focus Masking give me 3 force 1 distractions with 6 favors each, than a half-concealed rating 6 monster. Discretion is always a necessity in this game.
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Re:The Next New Century
« Reply #169 on: January 18, 2006, 03:22:27 PM »

yea, it's tough to pretend to be a air-conditioning repairman when you have the equivilant of a nuclear missle stuck through your astral belt-loops.

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Re:The Next New Century
« Reply #170 on: January 18, 2006, 07:54:56 PM »

Exactly!

If you know you're not going to need that Limited Flame Armor spell or that extra Spirit focus, don't bring it with you!
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Re:The Next New Century
« Reply #171 on: January 20, 2006, 06:30:45 AM »

You know, we once summoned a force 3 wind spirit, Materialized it, and oured a helmet full of Gamma-Scoploamine into the little guy then sent him through a camp full of Salish regular army. That one spirit dropped two dozen troopers in one favor. Never underestimate the power of a low-powered spirt.

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« Reply #172 on: January 20, 2006, 08:55:47 AM »

hmm... very clever.

although I'm not sure the use of chemical weapons is a good idea...

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Re:The Next New Century
« Reply #173 on: January 20, 2006, 09:13:40 AM »

Well at the time it was all we had. I really didn't expect them to take out the troopers. I figured they would create a diversion or something. They got extra karma for that plan.

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Re:The Next New Century
« Reply #174 on: January 20, 2006, 10:13:31 AM »

Yea, I'd give my PC's extra Karma for coming up with something like that too.

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Re:The Next New Century
« Reply #175 on: January 20, 2006, 12:09:30 PM »

although I'm not sure the use of chemical weapons is a good idea...

Er... biological weapons IIRC.
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Re:The Next New Century
« Reply #176 on: January 20, 2006, 02:36:42 PM »

Either way.

but, if you are sitting naked in a ditch, and all you have with you equipment wise is a german army helmet filled with the latest nuro-stun VXXIV, you gotta do what you gotta do.

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Re:The Next New Century
« Reply #177 on: January 21, 2006, 08:28:41 AM »

Spirits with telekinetic abilities are very nice.


I still remember playing with The Big Surge with my gaming group. He used a greater form sea spirit to "move" him on his surfboard at 60mph and use it's Storm powers on an off-shore oil rig taken over by pirates. It was cool.
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Re:The Next New Century
« Reply #178 on: January 23, 2006, 11:32:33 AM »

You just have to think outside of the box from time to time.

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Re:The Next New Century
« Reply #179 on: January 23, 2006, 01:24:42 PM »

Well, needless to say, a series of force 2 Sea spirits (remember you can summon multiple greater form nature spirits) can be very nasty for any of the people standing on the outside part of the oil platform...
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