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[kv]

And posted. I'm not sure on all the details, so feel free to correct them in your posts (movement, what you're doing, the like), I'm just getting over a really bad week including the flu and dental work, so I'm not 100%.

Hope everyone had a happy holidays.

  - kv

[Ruski]

Oh, bless the early morning stuffer-shack crowd.
my spot looks good. I'll post a reactioj to the screaming kid tonight.

[Zone]

I'm so sorry to have been incommunicado so long, I've been so busy.  I'm this close [...] to insane right now.  I'll go back and read all of the shack to see if I can catch up and roll in...

[Ruski]

we are a paitent-ish crowd. don't worry about it.
as for sanity: it's waaay over rated.

[Ingo Monk]

Seeing as how it took us almost a year to just get started, I think we're all pretty patient

[kv]

Most of you, anyway.

Don't worry about the slow pace, Zone, we've stuck around this long, I'm not worried about sticking around a little longer.

  - kv

[Zone]

I was all ready to give you an initiative and then reading, I saw the initiatives seem to be differently arrived at in 4th so I had to go read some more stuff

[kv]

No problem, Zone. I'll figure out initiative order and post on Friday. If someone wanted to figure out the orders (and the number of passes for everyone), feel free.

  - kv

[Ruski]

Ruski; as Sylvester: INIT:15 (3-passes)
Ingo; as Eric: INIT:11 (1-pass) (4 passes in VR)
Zone; as Sundance: INIT:9 (1-pass)
Bull30548; as:Kinsey: INIT:8 (1-pass)

Badguys: INIT:? (?-passes)

Actions:
Ruski: at initiative pass 15: Self-Building crossbow (Complex/automated)/ taking cover. (Simple)
Ingo: at initiative pass 11: Taking Cover. (simple)
Zone: at initiative pass 9: Humming ‘be prepared’ to herself. (free)
Bull:  at initiative pass 8: looking outside (free), drawing Aries-Predator (simple), taking partial cover (simple).

Sound right?

[Ingo Monk]

Sounds good to me, except I was/am only in AR at that moment. 

Question: Full VR in SR4 means limp body like decking in SR3 right?

[Ruski]

correct... although in AR I thing responce increase helps a little... like, one extra turn or something...

[Ingo Monk]

AR:
Doesn't give any initiative bonuses it seems, which makes sense actually.  How would a digital interface make your physical body move faster?  It does give bonuses to certain kinds of actions however, not to mention the fact that an networked PAN between characters with active AR can share info real time, like where baddies are displayed on top of a building layout.  Remember to see AR you need either image link cyber in your eyes or glasses/goggles with an image link so that you can display the AR overlay on top of your vision.

Depending on the situation, AR can be a bonus or a detriment. In
most cases, AR will be beneficial simply by providing useful information.
If it directly aids a task you are undertaking, such as overlaying
internal schematics, help features, and real-time diagnostics while repairing
an item, then the gamemaster can apply an appropriate dice
pool modifier (usually +1 but possibly as high as +3) to the test. - SR4A pg 225

VR:

Perceiving the VR Matrix in its full glory overwhelms the physical
senses. Any action taken in the physical world while in VR suffers a –6
dice pool penalty. - SR4A pg 226

So you're not completely cut off, but I doubt one could reliably walk down the street while in full VR.

VR - Cold sim:

When operating in full VR using cold sim, you use your Matrix
Initiative rather than your physical Initiative. Matrix Initiative equals
your Response + Intuition, and you receive an extra Initiative Pass (for
a total of two). - SR4A pg 226

VR - Hot sim:

When operating with full VR using hot sim, use your Matrix
Initiative rather than your physical Initiative. Hot sim Matrix Initiative
equals your Response + Intuition + 1, and you receive two extra
Initiative Passes (for a total of three). You also receive a +2 dice pool
bonus to all Matrix tests while using hot sim. - SR4A pg 226

[Ingo Monk]

So... we're waiting for KV again?

[kv]

Almost perpetually.

  -kv

[bull30548]

So Yeah I'll be the whiner for this.  <Whine>
What happened to the game? <pokes it with a stick>