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Re:History
« Reply #450 on: February 01, 2006, 05:54:02 AM »

That's spooky, chummer... :o

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Re:History
« Reply #451 on: February 02, 2006, 01:42:28 PM »

Ahem! I believe I had a hypothesis that Deus is actually the Mad Passion "Dis." The Mad Passion of Bureaucracy and Slavery. The nature of Deus' manipulations and mind-control experiments lead me to believe this. However, I have no solid proof in terms of canon.
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« Reply #452 on: February 02, 2006, 02:18:18 PM »

actually, on that one... I think we are all in agreeance. it's too spookily close to really be anything else.

wierd.

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Re:History
« Reply #453 on: February 02, 2006, 02:53:16 PM »

'Course. Fanpro would never develop anything like that, because I think they want to move away from Earthdawn references.
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« Reply #454 on: February 02, 2006, 03:25:45 PM »

Yea, I get that feeling as well.
*shrug*

oh well, it'll just be an interesting part of history.

like NERPS.

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Re:History
« Reply #455 on: February 02, 2006, 08:51:27 PM »

I voted for NERPS for president.
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« Reply #456 on: February 02, 2006, 09:16:06 PM »

I think a big part of that is that the current developers are like us- (well, not all of us), and played Shadowrun, but didn't expereince the whole FASA thing.

So when they're cutting out earthdawn references, mostly they're getting rid of things that they don't understand. I don't know how hard it would be to explain to everyone that Earthdawn and Shadowrun took place in the same world, about ten thousand years apart, but they don't want to do it.

I actually think it would be a cool payoff for those people who go out and read the old Earthdawn books.

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Re:History
« Reply #457 on: February 03, 2006, 07:05:36 AM »

I had always assumed that the company is headed by one of those young "synergy" types that wants to reinvent the wheel. Notably, I think the game makes more money in Germany than in the states so they focus on what that market wants.
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« Reply #458 on: February 03, 2006, 10:39:08 AM »

It's all about the newyen.

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Re:History
« Reply #459 on: February 04, 2006, 11:10:19 AM »

Or the Deutsche Marques
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« Reply #460 on: February 04, 2006, 01:39:37 PM »

nope Deutsche Mark, if anything. Mind you, by now they switched to Euro, which I might add, are an abomination on the face of europe.
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Re:History
« Reply #461 on: February 05, 2006, 12:12:39 AM »

Right, got my linguistic idiosyncrasies. Isn't the Euro edible?
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« Reply #462 on: February 05, 2006, 05:53:41 PM »

Ahem! I believe I had a hypothesis that Deus is actually the Mad Passion "Dis." The Mad Passion of Bureaucracy and Slavery. The nature of Deus' manipulations and mind-control experiments lead me to believe this. However, I have no solid proof in terms of canon.

Actually that brings up a good point. Deus was designed as a "sociology" program. It was used to chart, interpret, and predict social factors within a given group, in this case the archology. When it went AI and freaked out, it just carried on with it's original programming guidelines of charting, interpreting, and predicting social interactions as dictated by situations it created. It used all of its programming to manipulate EVERYONE into doing jsut what it wanted them to do, thus living up to its original intent in action, if not in motive.

Now that train of thought got me thinking about the Keymaster (or whatever the frag he was called) in the Matrix 2 movie, notably the scene in whcih he and Trinity are on top of the car-carrier rig and he gives her the "key" to start the motorcycle with. Now, if he was originally a decryption prgoram, it would explain how his AI eveolved along the lines of "keymaster." The acrhitect was a system design utility, and the Oracle was an Analyze utility. So how would other programs react if the "X-Factor" that the rulebooks talk about occured?

As far as I know, there have only ever been 3 confirmed AI's: Deus, Megara, and the old Echo-Mirage AI whose name escapes me. Deus was a social program, the Echo-Mirage AI was a medic program, and Megara was just plain fragged up. What would a combat program or a piece of Black IC turn into with sufficient programming power and X-Factor? What kind of persovnality would emerge???

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Re:History
« Reply #463 on: February 05, 2006, 07:36:27 PM »

Scary thought, really. But I found it sort of odd that there is shadowtalk mentioning Daemons created by Otaku doing things after their creator was killed. Very strange, indeed.
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Re:History
« Reply #464 on: February 06, 2006, 07:58:23 AM »

Well, nothing wrong with a signoff program.
Otaku can write code that stays on the trix' when they logoff just like any other decker.

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