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The problem with Steve Jackson Games
« on: November 09, 2005, 03:42:21 PM »

SJ Games still has problems meeting its own deadlines. This after being in business for over 20 years.

It's obvious at this point that SJG is no longer going to be supporting Traveller after they publish their one 4th edition book Interstellar Wars. Worse, this book isn't even set in the same time frame as their other 30 Traveller books.

I can't complain too much though. The 30 Traveller books they have published are more Traveller books than any other company has published. (Ok GDW published more but they weren't all CT) Traveller had a good long run with SJG and they've produced a lot of good info.

The problem now is that most of the Traveller books are out of print. Many are no longer available, or will soon not be available, which will essentially eliminate Gurps Traveller as a viable version of Classic Traveller. To address this problem I suggested that SJG scan old books and put them up for sale on their electronic store e23. The response I got from this was a long and varied list of excuses. Nevermind that you can take a book down to Kinko's and they'll scan the whole thing and put it into PDF format for less than $100. Nevermind that in response to my posts at least two people offered to do it for SJG for FREE. NO, they STILL couldn't do that, and they were SOOO offended that I'd even suggested the very idea.

I really like the GURPS game system. I think that 4th edition is a great improvement over 3rd edition. I was excited when I first heard that GURPS would be doing Traveller, and I remained excited after every book came out, I bought them, read them, and was very happy with the quality of the product that SJG had produced. I love CT and I see G:T as an improvement and continuation of CT. However G:T is soon no longer going to be a viable option.

At this point if you like G:T I certainly recommend picking up all of the books you can find on eBay, but realize that there aren't going to be anymore new G:T books. I'm undecided as whether or not to recommend using a filesharing program to download all of the old GURPS books for free. I'm obviously upset enough at SJG to no longer want to give them any of my money, but if SJG quits getting money for their Gurps books they'll simply switch over to making nothing but Munchkin products full-time. (which is what it seems like they're doing anyway)

Say nothing and be content with receiving nothing. Complain and get nothing but c**p in return. Vote with my wallet and risk losing the continued existance of my favorite game system. Heck of a catch-22 huh?

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Re:The problem with Steve Jackson Games
« Reply #1 on: November 09, 2005, 04:31:33 PM »

If the company refuses to offer reprints for sale, by all means steal them from the filesharing networks.  Get your hands on a good copy of LimeWire Pro (instead of paying for it, steal it using another FREE filesharing program -- ironic, huh?) and you'll be in Traveller heaven.  That's what I did.

I'm starting to think all game companies (electronic or print) are becoming collections of talentless dumbasses.  Interplay screwed up Fallout by butchering the license and trying to make it into shooters for 12-year-olds -- thanks a lot, Interplay, and have fun going out of business.  Wizards publishes the most inane game system imaginable.  Fantasy Productions let a chimpanzee edit Shadowrun 4th Edition, which has more errors per page than a high school term paper.  And PC game companies in general release only racing games and shoot-'em-ups... thanks, asses.

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Re:The problem with Steve Jackson Games
« Reply #2 on: November 10, 2005, 01:29:30 AM »

And then on top of that, when I was on the forum explaining why I think that Ultra-Tech should be published before my 100th birthday they got so upset they banned me.

You should look at the SJG forums if you haven't seen them lately.

There's this guy who calls himself Sock Puppet (and everyone thinks he's me which cracks me up) who's been on the forums trying to explain why he thinks SJG should publish a book. I mean SJG is a GAME BOOK PUBLISHING COMPANY! And he has to explain why they should publish books. And they're getting upset at him and trying to explain why SJG hasn't been publishing books. The same moronic excuses they were giving me. It's hilarious!

Imagine if you were on the phone with GM, trying to find out why their new model of car didn't come out this year. Imagine if they tried to explain why they wouldn't be making any new cars for awhile.

You're right Pimpers. Talentless dumasses.


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Re:The problem with Steve Jackson Games
« Reply #3 on: January 29, 2006, 11:59:55 AM »

I used to love playing car wars
was playing with a friend we each made a vechicle in secret
he had this huge bad to the bone semi I had a van  he didnt bother to read the design and game rules throuly I did i had only two weapos on my van a turent mounted twin pulse lase and a rear faceing tank gun with heat shells smart linked
man was he mad when i took out his bad to the bone rig with one shot to the grill
when he thought he had me dead to rights
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Re: The problem with Steve Jackson Games
« Reply #4 on: April 22, 2016, 09:44:12 PM »

This is a contentious issue for a long time. Thank you to share
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