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[Retread]

Training rifles in 2050+ use paint-capsules which can be replaced with whatever you need. These rifles are know as the Ares ELD-AR, which can fire paint-rounds at fully automatic speeds. Just be careful and keep your weapon in tip-top shape. It can be one thing to be messy from paint, it's another thing to have your gun chop a capsule and you find your self over-dosing on a relatively weak compound.

[Gabriel]

Bingo. You know, Retread, I thought about getting and Eldar rifle once. But then I thought about how much I would have to train to get a decent Assult Rifle rating, and I just said frag it.

Gabriel

[Retread]

That's the one gripe I have about the rules:

What is the real difference between a Rifles skill and an Assault Rifles skill? Rifles and Shotguns (slug shot)?

[Ruski]

isn't that fixed in the SR4 version? they have skill groups like 'rifle' where you get all thoes skillsets.

-RuskiFace the Pirate

[Retread]

Dunno, is it?

[Ruski]

pretty sure it is.

-RuskiFace the Pirate

[Gabriel]

Now see, I could see making that change. But as of actual game-play examples, the only time I have combined catagories is when I use B/R skills like B/R Firearms, or B/R Cars/Vans/Trucks. Let's be honest here, fixxing an engine is fixxing an engine when you are dealing witht hings like this. The only real difference comes in when you are dealing with "exotic" vehicles like blimps, t-birds, planes and the like.

Gabriel

[Ruski]

well, this is just more of the same; only it's game legal.

it takes more points to get a group, rather than a particular individual weapon type.

so, you can pay 3 points, to get a 'shotgun' of 3, or you can pay 6 points, to get an 'area effect cone projectile weapons group' of 3, that includes shotguns, squirt weapons, and uh... some other... oh, sonic blast weapons.

it's like, buy two; get one free.
after that you can antee-up on the individual skills to get them to 4 and beyond, or pay the big bucks and get the whole group to go forward; and that group is just one I made up right now, but there are real ones out there. they generally have 3-4 diffrent weapons in each group, and they cost twice as much as regular skills.

I think it works good.

-RuskiFace the Pirate

[Gabriel]

Sounds like a good mechanic to me, actually, although I wouldn't have doubled it. One and a half, maybe, but not doubled.

Gabriel

[Ruski]

perhaps it is one and a half. I only made the one PC, and even he was only halfway done before I had to go do something else.

I think there are a couple of groups that are a bit larger, where you get almost six skills... or wait... was there two types of groups? tight groups and broad groups?
...

actually; yea, I think there was two types of groups. and lots of over-lap.

-RuskiFace the Pirate

[Retread]

Gabe, Car B/R applies to trucks, vans and cars already. Trucks are considered a higher body rating and larger version of a "Car" catergory and receive a vehicle score penalty.

There's already a "Spray Weapons" skill that applies to squirt weapons (I believe, it might me pistols/rifles)


Should probably just keep the regular distinction including the B/R skills since it evens up skill sets (even if it doesn't make sense)

[Gabriel]

Good point.

Gabriel

[Retread]

I remember back in Ye Olde Shadowrunne when there was a "Firearms" skill which made you God.

[Ruski]

I wish I had that skill.

-RuskiFace the Pirate God

[Gabriel]

Yeah, but the specialisation rules were a bit crappy in that version. I like the way it is now, although I do tend to compress things a bit. SMG, Assult Rifle, and Rifle all go into one catagory.

Gabriel