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General => Reviews => Topic started by: luna on July 03, 2006, 06:16:27 PM
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for about a month now i have been readin the dragonlance books and they are awesome...the kender being my favorite char in book...but i recommend if you havent and you get into fantasy read them start with the dragon lance chronicles then the dragonlance legonds im almost done with the first of the legends trilogy and you will laugh n cry works good when your learning to rp too cuz it helps me out on the char im playing ;D
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in autumn of next year they are also makin a movie cant wait cant wait
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oh no, not another D&D movie. God I hope they don't screw this thing up. As far as the books I haven't read any of them. If I ever get a chance I'll check one out. I've got so much to read so I won't count onj it any time soon :)
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in autumn of next year they are also makin a movie cant wait cant wait
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Wow. I've been looking forward to a movie for the past 12-14 years.
There's so much scope for it, it's a great story. I can see it being brilliant if it's done well. I think that, because there aren't any clerics (at least, at the beginning of the Chronicles), it will be easier to implement the 'wow' factor for the audience because the characters will be thinking 'wow' too.
There's so many elements about it that I like, I just hope they do it justice.
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i just hope they try hard to make all the chars like in the books the girl that played xena is gonna play goldmoon so lets just see where that goes....oo i cant wait ;D
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Actually, it's animated.
So while I'm excited for it, I can approch this with no small amount of trepidation. I mean... seriously. Animated?
Although Michael Rosenbaum (who is awesome Lex Luthor on Smallville) is the voice of Tanis, and Lucy Lawless is the voice of Goldmoon. I'll wait until I see some animation before I pass judgement on this one, though.
I'm afraid it'll look anything like that old 'The Hobbit' cartoon.
-kv
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What's wrong with the old Hobbit cartoon? I grew up watching that. :P
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Yeah, me too.
Also animation quality = teh sucks.
I loved it, and I loved these books, but I'm afraid (nay, almost unto terrified) that they'll do a Gedenny Tartakofsky/Clone Wars rip off (or worse- Ren and Stimpy... or even worse... family guy) and that it'll suck.
At least with live-action I'm comfortable with the level of suckiness.
-kv
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Actually, it's animated.
Yeah, my comment was made before I realised it was animated. :-[
There's some pretty decent artwork around for Dragonlance - on the covers of the books, in the D&D modules, in other D&D source material - so if it's of that quality I'll be pretty pleased. If they do a Clone Wars/Samurai Jack style, I'll be disappointed. It deserves so much more than that (which isn't to say that that style isn't good, just not suited to this story).
I'm a bit hesitant about Lucy voicing Goldmoon though. I envisage (if that's the right term when imagining a sound...) that she'd have a softer voice than I associate with Lucy, but maybe I'm not giving her much credit.
Anyway, I look forward to having my fears allayed and being mightily impressed.
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I think it's more probable that she doesn't walk around all day talking like Xena, Warrior Princess, and can actually speak like a normal human being... although years of man-bashing Xena plotlines have led me to believe otherwise.
-kv
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so, there's no link out there for a preview yet?
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Dragonlance books were really good books, I read them back in high school. I hope the movie/animation dose not deviate to much from the book.
Funny to see this post because in the Shadowrun game I played in there was an NPC kender running around as a contact, decker!
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You know, I have to wonder what age group they are going to shoot for with this. If they go with your standard kids-late teens approach, then you can say goodbye to a lot of the sexual tension between Tanis, Kitara, and Laurana. You can also toss out the Tika's "blossoming to womanhood" with Caramon, although they will probably keep the crap with Sturm and Alhanna. Personally, I REALLY hope they go with an older audiance (since the people who read these books are now in thier 30's) and really cut loose with some of the more disturbing aspects of the stories. I'm really curious to see who they do Lord Soth, perhaps the baddest guy since Boba Fett. You should read the original 6 just for that, Jester.
Gabriel
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when I get to it. I'm reading alot of L5R fiction right now
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L5R???
Gabriel
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i was looking under tasselhoff burrfoot and came across the web site for the movie i am excited...i never knew about these books when i was growing up lets see what books were out then outsiders n stuff like that well i get into fantasy n my friends told me to try these books and i started reading them i can look up whats the name of the movie and get the page its on if you would like
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L5R???
Legend of the Five Rings.
Decent enough (though perhaps not entirely well balanced) RPG/CCG/???, based in Rokugan (http://l5r.alderac.com/miyaarchives/history.html) which is a fantasy world ripped off of medival china/feudal japan.
Funny you should mention it J, since I started up a campaign in L5R just yesterday. (Pre-coup, probably not gonna use all of the metaplot.)
Nice enough game mechanics, actually.
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As with most things I thought that Dragonlance over stayed its welcome - I remember reading the original trilogy and liking it fine but most of the sequals that I read (one or two and now there are scads) sucked epic. No one can evr leave well enough alone if there's a dime to made otherwise - forget quality its mechandising that counts.
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As with most things I thought that Dragonlance over stayed its welcome - I remember reading the original trilogy and liking it fine but most of the sequals that I read (one or two and now there are scads) sucked epic. No one can evr leave well enough alone if there's a dime to made otherwise - forget quality its mechandising that counts.
Seconded.
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No kidding. I have so many of those damn books still on my shelf. I never can bring myself to throw a book away. :-\
Gabriel
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Of the dragonlance books, any were questionable. Of the books (including the new generation... which I will reserve comment on), my favorites were:
Dragons of Autumn Twilight
Dragons of Winter Night
Dragons of Spring Dawning
Time of the Twins
War of the Twins
Test of the Twins
Dragons of Summer Flame (hey, I liked Tasslehoff's death... he stabbed God in the toe)
Legend of Huma
Weasel's Luck (not really connected to the rest of the series, so far as I know, I just liked it)
And that be all. I've since read most of the second generation, and almost all of the legend books, but trust me, these are the best ones. And if you really loved the first three, I wouldn't reccommend reading Dragons of Summer Flame. They kill some good characters and bring others back.
-kv
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No kidding. I have so many of those damn books still on my shelf. I never can bring myself to throw a book away. :-\
Gabriel
That's why they have 2nd hand bookstores - swap for something better :)
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Well the book stores around here really suck with that. If I wanted 1/4 of the book's value, I would just use it as kindling the next few times I go camping and save my money that way.
Gabriel
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I've heard of those places. That's all they give you is 1/4? Man that bites
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Actually, they give you 1/2 the value, but you only get 1/2 of THAT in cash, the rest is store credit. Oh, and you only get $1.00 for ANY hard back book. So those expensive Wheel of Time novels are no longer woth $25.00. Talk about a rip off.
Gabriel
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a buck? why? that's about the dunbest thing i ever heard!
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huh. no wonder I don't get rid of books...although that could also be because I never know which ones I'll want to reread later.
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If your hardcovers are first editions they can be worth quite a bit, especially if they are in good shape and by a popular author. Book collectors go all gooey over a 'clean' first edition.
As for the paperbacks - always go for the swap, not the cash. You won't get rich but you'll get something new to read.
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true. I know where we have one but just need to get there
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Well, the platce I'm talking about, youdon't get to swap the books out. They are priced at 1/2 cover, and you only get 1/4 cover with 1/2 of that as credit, so you HAVE to spend money no matter what you do. Oh, and the hardcovers are still 1/2 price, even though you only got 1 buck for them.
Gabriel
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Allow me to lay your mind at ease. Yes, it's animated, but Margaret Weis and Tracy Hickman are working closely with the animators during development, and I have faith in their abilities. They've spent too much time on this series to shill out to a crappy animator. I think that it will end up looking like Lord of the Rings meets the Matrix, in 256 colors. . .
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I'm curious what style of animation they're going with, though.
Anime would be wrong, but it's also one of the more popular.
-kv
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i wouldn't be suprised if they used computers
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You know, id Squaresoft did it, it would look like a trillion bucks. Love it or hate it, Final Fantasy the movie had stunning graphics. The look of that film was how I've always pictured the Matrix in SR: stunningly realistic, but still obviously artifical.
OF course, however they do this film, I hope it is a triliogy. Compressing the entire War of the Lance into 1 or even 2 movies would just not work. How many people do you think are going to be calling this the Poor Man's Lord of the Rings???
Gabriel
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Well... the books lend themselves to superficial comparison.
But the characters are different, and no one will ever mistake Raistlin for Gandalf. Or Tas for Bilbo. Or even Flint for Gimli.
Plus, Tanis kicks ass hands down. And then there's Sturm and Caramon, as well as Goldmoon and... goldmoon's protector. Whatever his name was.
The thought occurs to me though, that they might have made this animated so it wouldn't seem to people like they were trying to make a poor man's LOTR.
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and... goldmoon's protector. Whatever his name was.
Riverwind.
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Well... the books lend themselves to superficial comparison.
But the characters are different, and no one will ever mistake Raistlin for Gandalf. Or Tas for Bilbo. Or even Flint for Gimli.
Plus, Tanis kicks ass hands down. And then there's Sturm and Caramon, as well as Goldmoon and... goldmoon's protector. Whatever his name was.
The thought occurs to me though, that they might have made this animated so it wouldn't seem to people like they were trying to make a poor man's LOTR.
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good point
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I still think the comparison will be made. In fact, when LOTR came out, I thought the if Dragonlance ever made it to the silver screen, it would be held up to LOTR. I guess only time will tell.
Gabriel
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I'll still watch it even though i doubrt it will make it to the big screen
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No, it looks like it has enough steam for it. Weis and Hickman are deeply involved with making the movie, and they've already started with the animation (and voice-acting) for it.
-kv
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Which studio is producing it??
Gabriel
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I want to audition for Kit or maybe Tika. They are the only female characters with ...well...character.
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You as Kitiara.... OK, I'm going to go hide under the bed for the next few years.
Gabriel
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Apparently Weis and Hickman are pretty involved on the project, which I hope means good things for it.
They're also the people who produced the Serenity roleplaying games.
So they're good peoples.
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I have yet to play Serenity. But my Racoon shaman just saw the movie and really wanted to wastch the series, so she may be interested in playing the RPG. Here's hoping.
Gabriel
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You as Kitiara.... OK, I'm going to go hide under the bed for the next few years.
Gabriel
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I have so got to put in an audition tape now.
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Now THAT would be worth listening to. Go get your copy of the Chronicles and just start reading out loud. I bet would could host the file on here.
In fact, that might be kind of interesting. Hey Ingo, can we host sound files on here?? If so, let's do a "radio drama" of Dragonlance.
Gabriel (Yeah, I know it will never work, but what the frag.)
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I think we'd need boradcast rights or some other legal thing to do so - cool idea though.
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Nah, frag that. We wouldn't be trying to make any money off of it, so who cares if we read it out loud? I'll be Raistlin if you play Kitaiara. Now we just need the rest of the cast.
Gabriel
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You want Raistlin? Hmmm, I'll have to wrap my mind around that. I don't think I saw you as his.
So what about Jester as Tasslehoff?
Maybe Rootless can be Sturm 'cause he's so stolid ;)
Who else?
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So if you didn't se me as Raistlin, who did you see me as?? And as for Jester as Tass, yeah, I can totally see that. I think ROOTless would make a decent Sturm, but it's too bad there isn't a charater who was a bit more sarcastic for him to play. ;) It's too bad that Fortune isn't around anymore, I think he'd do a great Flint. I guess we coudl have AJ do Laurana, and Luna might make a decent Tika. That just leaves Tanis, Caramon, and Lord Soth (becasue he's a main character too, dammit!!!!)
Gabriel
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Now now gabe, I saw you as Caramon the good.
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LOL, yeah right. Big, stupid, and probably can't spell any better than I can, huh? ;) SO then what about yourself, ROOTless???
Gabriel
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At the moment we were designating roles for other people, yes?
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I think just a general musing really. But who would you like to be, out of curiosity?
Gabriel
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So far I belive various people have suggested me for:
Sturm.
Raistlin.
Fistandantilus.
Lord Soth (only suggested once).
But to be honest, I'm a roleplayer, not much of an actor. SO I doubt I'd be participating much.
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Oh come on now, like I'm an actor.
Gabriel
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actuly ruski as fizzban
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LOL!!
Gabriel