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Re:Power Armor, anyone?
« Reply #1 on: August 12, 2007, 06:09:25 PM »

from the read it seems like something a non mundane character like my main char would be interested in getting his hands on but the cost will more than likely be outstandingly high

but i would do just about anything to get it  with a few modification for shadowrun of course    the computer being a backpack would be way to conspicuous.  so the hal3 would not be the one for me where as even though you still need a pouch for the hal4 it is likely a better deal..  now the hal 5 which is still in the making may eliminate any and all needs for computer storage for the system....  so lets hurry this along     the prices in the game for these things should look like what....  

hal3  ?
hal4  ?
hal5  ?

all would be able to play a roll for all characters that would want them it is all determined on how much they want to pay for em...
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Re:Power Armor, anyone?
« Reply #2 on: August 12, 2007, 07:11:37 PM »

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The first commercial suits are likely to cost between 1.5 and 2 million yen ($14,000 to $19,000).

k, let's round to 20k 2005 money.  70 years in the future?  Plus upgrades to system and armor?
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Re:Power Armor, anyone?
« Reply #3 on: August 12, 2007, 11:16:27 PM »

still need answereing  is price for the hal5  4  and  3   as upgrades would go in 2075
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Re:Power Armor, anyone?
« Reply #4 on: August 13, 2007, 05:07:58 AM »

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Re:Power Armor, anyone?
« Reply #6 on: August 13, 2007, 11:14:51 AM »

Good find Jester, that was bad-ass.

Tobias:
After going over the article once more it seems that it's talking about HAL 3.  He says that HAL 4 will be lighter, which makes me think it's still in development.  So, I'd say it's 20k for HAL 3.

The thing is, HAL 3 can already increase your strength by approximately 10 times.  To apply this in SR I don't think it would be a literal 10 times, since the attribute ratings seem to be exponential (at least they weren't in SR3).  In SR4 you can carry 10 kilograms per Strength point.  Once thing to realize is that the suit isn't agile or quick enough to function in melee combat, so in reality the strength boost will only help with lifting/carrying or as recoil compensation.

To make it more balanced, you could say that HAL 3 added 3 points to your Str, HAL 4 added 4 points, and so on... I'd stop it at HAL 6 as this is where SR stops for any attribute augmentation (for game balance).  The costs should be exponential as well.  Keep in mind that the HAL 3 system, as seen in that video Jester linked, isn't armored in any way.  To add armor to make it an actual powered armor you'd have to pay a lot more.  Once the rigger book comes out you could pull the costs of adding armor to a vehicle and apply it to the HAL system.  Or, you could look at Rigger 3 and jury-rig a cost-per-point of armor ratio.

If you wanted to whip something up quick you could use the rules for cybernetic limbs, adding armor and strength wherever you see fit.  I don't think you could add agility to the suit, as it seems to be a bit cumbersome and slow.  So basically you'd be buying a cyber torso, 2 arms and 2 legs, but wouldn't be paying any essence.  To offset this, I would double or even triple the costs of the limbs and augments, and while wearing the suit the user wouldn't be able to run (or at a minimum run multiplier 2).  I would still make the suit limited by the capacity rating of the cyber limbs with a max rating of 6 for any augment (only Strength and Armor allowed).  I'd still have to play test the idea, but that I think would be plausible.  You could make it an item that a runner team must acquire then when one of the players goes 'cool! power armor' and puts it on some guys rush in and take him out in melee.  That'd be fun ;)

Once the next sourcebooks come out we could redo the design.
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Re:Power Armor, anyone?
« Reply #7 on: August 14, 2007, 09:23:41 PM »

The university that is making this power suit is like 20 minutes from my house. :o I might have to go try and take a look.

The university is called Tsukuba University and has always been quite popular for research and development.

My family had planned to head to the area in a few weeks for the museums and such. If I see something interesting, I'll put the pics up.  
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Re:Power Armor, anyone?
« Reply #8 on: August 15, 2007, 02:03:40 AM »

Please do!
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« Reply #9 on: August 15, 2007, 05:01:17 AM »

that'd be great!
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Re:Power Armor, anyone?
« Reply #10 on: August 15, 2007, 06:03:42 PM »

Ooh, go and visit and offer to be a test subject, and take pictures!!!

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