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Re:Nanotech
« Reply #195 on: February 21, 2006, 08:56:03 PM »

Eh, the problem with this theory is that genetically, you can't clone someone over and over again because your DNA is encoded with a lifespan. Those sheep that they cloned only lived half as long as they should. This is reflected in the nature of Leonization therapy, insofar as you cannot exceed your natural genetic threshold. This would appear true for people too. However, if you made sure to save your DNA from when you were 21 years old, that's different, neh?
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« Reply #196 on: February 22, 2006, 05:33:38 AM »

I think you may be forgetting the natuer of nuerons here. You can't just clone a memory into another body. You have to physically alter the noerons in the brain itself. As you do that, there is less and less of the person's personality, and everything else left. Once you start to restructure one opart of the brain, the other structures alter as well. Plus you have to factor in the fact that no-one has a brain wired the same as anyone else, meaning that the structurs of the brain are similar, of cousre, but the actual nueral composition is not. The old sci-fi question of "Do I see red the same way as you do?" comes into play here, Especially since the answer to that question is "no."

To even have a remote chance of this working, you would need a clone, like you've already said. But you would need a clone who is the same age as you. After all, 50 years of corporate experience means very little to a person who is going through puberty. All those hormones and the like would play all kinds of hell with those precious memories and personality traits. Everyone has the fantasy of going back in time and reliving a few select days of their lives knowing what they know now. Just think how that would change you. So your really wiz and obscenely espensive plan to copy yourself and live forever would amount to, very quickly, creating a "you" who may well not do ANYTHING the same as you ever did, and hate the idea of what happened.

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Re:Nanotech
« Reply #197 on: February 22, 2006, 06:42:30 AM »

Memory RNA is a tricky thing, simply copying it would be downright impossible. However, taking a PAB and "writing" the clone with Simsense might work. However, you'd need lots of storage space to copy the entire contents of someone's brain.
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« Reply #198 on: February 22, 2006, 08:29:07 AM »

well, how about this; yea, the 'you' that you copy may not be exactly like you at all, but if you had yourself 're-grown' at age 21 it would be like having a kid. only they probibly wouldn't let you down.
genetically similar, but starting off with a little more upfront cash than you did.
isn't that the goal of most families?
and what if you copyed your intelect into a body that was yours... but genetically modified to be an elf? that would help you skip out on the experation date for your human self?

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Re:Nanotech
« Reply #199 on: February 22, 2006, 08:48:24 AM »

Or an orc?
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« Reply #200 on: February 22, 2006, 09:35:24 AM »

they don't typically live as long as humans.

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« Reply #201 on: February 22, 2006, 09:57:35 AM »

No, I meant an orc "trading up", too.
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« Reply #202 on: February 22, 2006, 10:08:55 AM »

oh, yea. in that regard of course.

looks like everyone wants to be an elf.

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Re:Nanotech
« Reply #203 on: February 22, 2006, 11:05:51 AM »

I still don't think it would work, but only because you aren't taking into account the factors that make a metatype a metatype. It is more than just bone structure and cosmetic differences. You are talking all kinds of factors from electrolye levels to hormones to blood sugar regulation to things I don't even have the terms to express with my very limited medical knowledge. On the basic level, we are all human, but chimps are only 2% dissimilar to humans, and look how different they are. So if you could just "tweak" yourself to be a chimp, you would never be able to be a "chimp version" of yourself. Far too many things would change within that 2% threshold. :-\

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« Reply #204 on: February 22, 2006, 01:01:46 PM »

Hmm... you are probibly right. the biochemistry of how your body remembers 'throwing a ball' vs. how a new body would do it is probibly too dissimilar.

I bet you could do it for memories though. knoledge skills. do a dump of all the history you learned in highschool... that would be confusing to whatever orginism got on the receving end of it... but really; it could be helpfull...

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« Reply #205 on: February 22, 2006, 01:05:48 PM »

Kinda like an amputee relearning to walk on an artificial leg?  (Bad example, but the closest I can think of.)
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« Reply #206 on: February 22, 2006, 01:08:13 PM »

yea, zactly.

the 'wires' to the rest of the body probibly wouldn't work, so they'd have to  be an infant, and learn to walk again...

but if you did a memory dump... all that algebra, history, social studies, and thoes fifteen langues you learned to understand over your 100 years of life... that should be able to be coppied over into a disimilar mind.

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« Reply #207 on: February 22, 2006, 01:10:45 PM »

Although the languages, you'd still need to relearn how to form the words.  You'd understand what someone's saying to you, not necessarily be able to speak it back.
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« Reply #208 on: February 22, 2006, 01:15:56 PM »

understanding it is the bigger half of that battle I think.

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Re:Nanotech
« Reply #209 on: February 22, 2006, 01:38:51 PM »

Probably so. Of course, keeping it all in delta-grade headware memory would still be fairly essence intensive. We are talking the sum knowledge of an indevidual here. Even without the personality, that's a lot of MP's.

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