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[AJStarhiker]

I've read the first one and part of the second.

[Zone]

Well, I stopped reading the Wheel of Time somewhere around book 9 I think. That series has gotten WAY out of hand, and I just lost any kind of faith in Robert Jordan's ability to bring it back together. In fact, I dumped all of my books off at the Good Will and just walked away.

Gabriel

I'm with you Gabe.  The guy lost direction and I lost interest.  Hunny got all books dumped back in his lap and thehn he shoved Song of Fire and Ice at me  so now I'm stick in another endless series - at least this one seems to be moving though...

Oh hey, on topic, there were twins in that one - Jaime and Cerce

[Elena V]

But uh... they were incestuous.  At least in the first book.  I tried to get into that series and never really did.

It just.  I don't know.  It seemed like Martin was trying too hard, or something.

[ROOTless]

I'm so glad to know that I'm not the only one who thinks like that about that series.

It came so very highly recommended, and I'm just about done with the first book, and bloody well bored.

[Gabriel]

My girlfriend is reading the George R. R. Martin books right now and she really likes them, so that means I will have to read them too, or at least give them a shot. But I have a rule (which I only ever broke for Wheel of Time and learned my lesson) and that is that I never start a series that isn't completely published yet. I HATE reading 2 or 3 books and then having to wait a year for the 4th book, then another year for the 5th. Bugger that. So when all of those Martin books are published, I will give it a read, but by then, I'm sure no one will really care.

Gabriel

[Zone]

I've discovered he's fine with killing off even those people you think should survive - central characters in some cases. Not sure how I feel about that.  After all if I invest the time to get to know them, why should he get to bump them off in favor of yet more characters I have to learn about?

And yeah, Jaime and Cerce are bad guys  and incestuous, but that has nothing to do with them being twins

[Gabriel]

Are they from Arkansas???

Gabriel

[mercy]

off topic here zone if you get a chance check out the wild card series

[Zone]

I never could get into that author-----

BTW Ruski, don't forget to get your wife a mother's day card

[ROOTless]

OK people, we're all getting a bit off topic here, even if Zone did indeed try to heard us all back.

[Gabriel]

You know, I htink ROOTless just LOVES saying stuff like that.

Gabriel

PS - Name one of the twins Gabe.

[Zone]

How's your spouse Ruski?  Are you guys done with timester 2 yet?

[kv]

I guess I could let him answer for himself, but I'm already here and everything.

The twins and Mrs. The Pirate are doing very well. There was a little bit of a scare- the doctors were afraid that the boys (identical twin boys) were sharing the same amniotic sac, which meant that one of them could have all sorts of problems if the fluid wasn't even between the sacs.

It turns out that the babies are fine- last weigh in, I think one was 1.5 pounds, and one was 1.25 pounds. So the smaller baby is catching up.

  -kv

[Zone]

Excellent.  A lady I know who had a pretty even distribution (nine all told) says boys are easier than girls.  Wonder if that's true if the bet is doubled My best to them.

[Ruski]

actually, the fear was a bit more complicated than that. they have something called 'twin to twin transfusion syndrome'
it's a complication that's typically fatal in about 80-100% of the cases that it shows up in.

although the twins don't share a sack, they do share a placenta, and there's a blood vessle that goes from one twin to the other.

(one twin gets too much blood, the other, not enough)

so far they are doing good (better than expected) we are currently at 25 weeks. if they make it all the way to 30 weeks, their chances of survival go from 20% up to about 80%. so that's good.

-RuskiFace the Pirate
(and thank you for the reminder Zone, I did get my wife a mother's day card)