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Re:The Actual Original
« Reply #60 on: May 17, 2006, 10:47:08 AM »

You have to take into account that Endor was a moon with a moon-sized satelite orbiting it. I would have thought that would have killed all life in the moon. Something taht big being in orbit would muck up all kinds of things.

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Re:The Actual Original
« Reply #61 on: May 17, 2006, 11:08:31 AM »

THe stat I remember from the anti-extinction side was that the deathstar was 'six planetary distances away'  - - whatever the hell that means.
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« Reply #62 on: May 17, 2006, 11:12:13 AM »

Do you mean 6 AU???? That's imopssible, it would be WAY too far away to have a stable orbit.

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[Let me explain that a bit. 1 AU is 1 Astrinomical (sp) Unit representing the distance from the Earth to the Sun. So 6 AU would be six times the distance from the Earth to the Sun.
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Re:The Actual Original
« Reply #63 on: May 17, 2006, 11:16:15 AM »

Don't remember, all I remember was that the argument seemed to place the DS too far away, I mean it was clearly visible from the planetary surfce revealing more detail than we see on our own moon...
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« Reply #64 on: May 17, 2006, 11:20:14 AM »

Well I guess it just comes down to it being a fantasy, and therfore full of plot holes that we choose to ignore.

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« Reply #65 on: May 17, 2006, 11:22:33 AM »

The willful suspension of disbelief is an essential :)
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« Reply #66 on: May 17, 2006, 12:02:43 PM »

And fun.
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Re:The Actual Original
« Reply #67 on: May 17, 2006, 12:25:24 PM »

the mass was probly not as great as a natural moon of that size woukld be and the ecosystem probly returned to normal and most of the debris would have burned up on rentry
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« Reply #68 on: May 17, 2006, 01:16:56 PM »

Not a chance, Mercy, sorry. Anything that big couldn't have been vaporized. There would have had to have been large chunks of structure raining down on endor. Now consider, something the size of the Death Star would have been easily capable of creating debris that were miles across. Even one piece of debris a few miles wide would hit with an impact capable of destroying all life on Endor. And even if one of them wouldn't have done the job, remember, this is the Death Star, there would have been A LOT more chunks hitting Endor.

But again, it's not like Star Wars is anywhere even close to being realistic.

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Re:The Actual Original
« Reply #69 on: May 18, 2006, 12:27:31 AM »

THe stat I remember from the anti-extinction side was that the deathstar was 'six planetary distances away'  - - whatever the hell that means.

I always took that to mean planetary diameters, which is a silly measurement as well, given how the diameter of Jupiter (a planet, more or less) is about 11 times that of earth.
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Re:The Actual Original
« Reply #70 on: May 18, 2006, 02:04:34 AM »

sooo... it was six 'earths' away?

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Re:The Actual Original
« Reply #71 on: May 18, 2006, 04:10:17 AM »

Or Couruscants (sp?), maybe
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Re:The Actual Original
« Reply #72 on: May 18, 2006, 07:05:40 AM »

Or maybe someone had his head up his hoop and just made the measurement up??? Who can say? By the way, how far away, in "planetary distance" is the moon away from earth???

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Re:The Actual Original
« Reply #73 on: May 18, 2006, 11:01:18 AM »

Oh, that's the by far most likely.

And as for your second answer, google can help you find out.
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Re:The Actual Original
« Reply #74 on: May 18, 2006, 11:16:49 AM »

Even if the entire Death Star vaporized in Endor's atmosphere, every living thing on that planet would be flash fried. As something burns up (Vaporizes,) it imparts it's thermal energy into the medium that surrounds it.

Science Lab (Don't do this at home.)

According to the Death Star Technical Handbook published by West End Games, the Death Star has a diameter of 120 kilometers.

Let's assume that the DS has uniform density of 1kg/cubic meter. (And since it was made of plasticrete and ceramasteel, that's being VERY generous).

Mass = Volume * Density.
Mass = (4/3) * pi * (60,000 meters)^2 *1
Mass = Approximately 15 billion kg.

Calorimetry of Steel
Heat of vaporization of Carbon 355.8 kJ/kg
Heat of Vaporization of Iron 349.6 kJ/kg
Carbon and Iron make up steel so average is 353 kJ/kg

353*15,000,000,000 = 5,295,000,000,000,000 Joules of energy pumped into Endor's atmosphere, which cooks to a plasma, while the oceans boil, vaporize, and plasmate too.

There you have it, proven by amateur Shlock science. Crispy Ewoks! Q.E.D.
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