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BornKrazi

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« Reply #90 on: February 21, 2007, 09:29:12 AM »

I did a paper on scientific research into homosexuality, and wikipedia gave me some awesome references (specifically, an article in the Boston Globe about two studies about homosexuality and the brain).

Do I want to know why you picked homosexuality???
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« Reply #91 on: February 21, 2007, 11:05:25 AM »

Because I wanted a logical and scientific argument against it. I've heard far too many times that homosexuality is "genetic" because people were "born that way," and it's bulldrek.

For instance, there were two competeing studies- one by a homosexual doctor in san diego, inspecting the brains of dead homosexual men (all of his test subjects died of AIDs, but that apparently wasn't considered a factor), and he found that the anterior commisure was larger in homosexual men than in heterosexual men. But... since all of the subjects died from AIDs, isn't it possible that the growth of the anterior commisure was because of the disease, rather than from a lifestyle choice.

Another of this guys' studies showed that when you have two identical twins (with identical DNA- which identical twins do have) that when one twin is gay, the other has a 50% chance of also being gay. 50%. Not 100%, which you would expect to see if this was a 'genetic' condition, not even 75%, which would indicate that it's a predisposition, with hormonal influence involved.

My argument is that he's using bad science (or presuming from results that he is correct in what ideas he already has... which is bad science), to support his theories, even when they're giving contradictory evidence, or even evidence that has no bearing on his argument.

But yeah... those transformers. Shia LeBeof is in this movie, right?

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« Reply #92 on: February 21, 2007, 12:45:42 PM »

Sorry not tryin to sway to far off topic, but to keep with what you researched.  Isn't it true that 10% of our DNA is still unmapped, which some scientists believe is our "soul"?  And if so, is it possible these "genetic" desires could be found there?  I don't really care what their choice is, everyone is allowed their own choice in life.  I don't agree with it, but that's just my opinion just like my asshole, its mine!

So yeah, when was this movie due to be released?
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« Reply #93 on: February 22, 2007, 01:00:30 AM »

If it was genetic, then two people with identical genes would have identical genetic expression. For instance, if two identical twins have family history of a certain type of cancer, only one of them needs to be tested for it, at least at a young age. Later in life other factors can come into play, but at young ages, identical twins are just that-identical.

The human genome is completely mapped. They're not sure what all the bits and peices do, but they know where all of them are, and they're constantly experimenting to see what the parts we don't understand do.

Not a lick of actual scientific research has ever corroborated the idea that homosexuality is genetic. Not one. Even the "esteemed" reports I found were poorly done, even if by expert researchers. I think one of the big problems is that no one is approaching this with an open mind. People expect to be proven right, and they find evidence that supports that theory, even if other evidence would normally lead them to question the findings.

I know a lot of people who say that homosexuality is genetic. I don't beleive that to be the case, and after all the research I've done, I'm not swayed in the slightest. Maybe that lumps me in with the people who refuse to see opposing evidence, but I actually approached my research in the honest desire to find fact. I found a lot of posteuring, and a lot of bad science, and a lot of quoted bible verses, but I didn't find anything that said that homosexuality is genetic. Or cause by physical anatomical differences. There is no difference between the brain of a healthy homosexual subject and a healthy heterosexual one, aside from slight brain pattern differences that differ between everyone- even identical twins.

*cough*

 Okay, so I think this movie comes out over July 4th Weekend.

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« Reply #94 on: February 22, 2007, 04:54:22 AM »

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« Reply #95 on: February 22, 2007, 05:34:18 AM »

Great Ghost, I get a migrane for a day and we go from transformers to gay-brains?

I Just want ROOTless to admit that I have NOTHING TO DO WITH THIS. This time. ;)

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« Reply #96 on: February 22, 2007, 06:27:32 AM »

ok a cpl sore sticking p[oints for me on moive bumble bee should not be a muscle car his role on the team was a spy not a fighter the cop car should be the autobot prowl ironhide should be a van
and yes there are female autobots in all the verious transformer seris
and there should be at least 1 airplane autobot
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« Reply #97 on: February 22, 2007, 01:10:16 PM »

So are we in agreement that we all see this opening day then spending Saturday morning posting about it instead of watching cartoons?
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« Reply #98 on: February 22, 2007, 01:27:14 PM »

LOL, I think I can handle that. :)

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« Reply #99 on: February 22, 2007, 02:22:17 PM »

LOL ;D
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« Reply #100 on: February 22, 2007, 04:46:22 PM »

Yeah, I think every nerd on the planet will line up to see a movie based on a cherished childhood memory NOT being sodomized, and I hope this teaches Hollywood to make more good movies. But who am I kidding? They made a live action movie version of Fat Albert, AND two Charlie's Angels movies.

This will probably make them want to do another one. *shudder with hate*

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« Reply #101 on: February 22, 2007, 05:05:52 PM »

you didnt think fat Albert was funny? I did, but due to me watching with my little girl. I kinda grew into liking it..
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« Reply #102 on: February 22, 2007, 06:36:14 PM »

I grew up on the Bill Cosby jokes, and a little of the tv cartoon... so I was kinda horrified that they made it into a movie. I never saw it, but those were only two examples of the plethora of movies that have been (badly) made of classic cartoons.

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« Reply #103 on: February 23, 2007, 04:49:19 AM »

Don't forget Josy and the Pussycats. Or the Flinstones, both 1 & 2. You just have to wonder who the hell green-lights these things...

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« Reply #104 on: February 23, 2007, 05:09:56 AM »

lol, and then infamous D&D movies. Anyway, I rarely ever go see a movie on opening night. I usually wait a week or 2.
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