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Re:Feeling only 'half' creative.
« Reply #45 on: December 09, 2004, 04:15:13 PM »

But this guy doesn't have a clan.
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Re:Feeling only 'half' creative.
« Reply #46 on: December 09, 2004, 04:16:37 PM »

yes he does he has a familey he helps protect
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Re:Feeling only 'half' creative.
« Reply #47 on: December 09, 2004, 04:29:51 PM »

Family and Clan are different things
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Re:Feeling only 'half' creative.
« Reply #48 on: December 09, 2004, 04:30:46 PM »

aye but both can fall under busido
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Re:Feeling only 'half' creative.
« Reply #49 on: December 09, 2004, 08:20:17 PM »

From what I've learned of bushido (which is admittedly, not much), revenge isn't a big motivator. But according the the samurai code, if his honor was damaged, the most honorable thing he could do is destroy the enemies that had damaged his clan/family, and then kill himself.

(Because to a samurai, if you avenge yourself, you still failed in the first place)

  So this is a Hundred Bullets type of story? A guy with nothing to live for trying to wreak his revenge before killing himself?

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Re:Feeling only 'half' creative.
« Reply #50 on: December 09, 2004, 08:41:55 PM »

but can add in a factor that someone equivlint to the shogun prevents hinm
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Re:Feeling only 'half' creative.
« Reply #51 on: December 10, 2004, 03:22:21 AM »

WEll, if we (or just Ruski) are going to be writing it, chances are he'll not be followinging Bushido anyway, but merely a western interpretation of it. Which is fine, as he too, presumably, is a westerner with a westerner's understanding of Bushido, and of concepts like Honour.

It would mean that someone whom he considers a "lord" could forbid him from talking direct action, but is that what we want?

Bushido certaily is a philosophy worthy of a second glance (even if it is a bit ... unwieldy these days), but do we need it? or even want it?
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Re:Feeling only 'half' creative.
« Reply #52 on: December 10, 2004, 05:42:54 AM »

So, is everyone asking my opinion? I'm the expert on Japan, etc. here.

Bushido is a hard subject. I can understand what you guys are saying and you're making good points but it is really more involved than just honour...I almost want to say self-pride or deep inner emotion and you might be thinking..."Hmmm...what's the difference betwenn honour and self-pride/deep inner feeling?". Well, alot to be honest. Maybe I should post a story from Japanese history to give you a feel for what I mean.
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Re:Feeling only 'half' creative.
« Reply #53 on: December 10, 2004, 06:30:22 AM »

go for it
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Re:Feeling only 'half' creative.
« Reply #54 on: December 10, 2004, 06:36:55 AM »

Actually I want to hear what Ruski has to say about all of this before we go any further.

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Re:Feeling only 'half' creative.
« Reply #55 on: December 10, 2004, 07:10:13 AM »

Okay, then I'll wait for Ruski. 8)
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Re:Feeling only 'half' creative.
« Reply #56 on: December 10, 2004, 02:38:17 PM »

Most of these concepts are unfortunatly no overly easily understandable to Geijin (that's us, boys and girls).

I've spend quite a bit of time and energy to understand, and I'm fully aware that I still don't.
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Re:Feeling only 'half' creative.
« Reply #57 on: December 10, 2004, 03:24:13 PM »

I've been in Japan close to 10 years and that is with degreeing (I invented this word) in the world of Japan but sometimes things are hard to explain. I think Root has a good idea. ;D
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Re:Feeling only 'half' creative.
« Reply #58 on: December 11, 2004, 12:32:22 AM »

That's because part of it is training, some of it is the ethical side of it, but the most part of it is cultural!

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Re:Feeling only 'half' creative.
« Reply #59 on: December 11, 2004, 07:53:26 AM »

Honestly, a lot has to do with Self-Discipline.
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