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Re:Magic Rules
« Reply #135 on: June 02, 2006, 09:28:44 AM »

uhhh... what? What is an uber alles?

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Re:Magic Rules
« Reply #136 on: June 02, 2006, 09:29:52 AM »

FACE JUNKIE UBER ALLES

Only german Face Junkies, I should assume.
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Re:Magic Rules
« Reply #137 on: June 02, 2006, 09:32:50 AM »

Anyway... more magic questions.

Are there any focuses that help with banishing spirits? (or controlling spirits in general?)

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Re:Magic Rules
« Reply #138 on: June 02, 2006, 09:40:24 AM »

foci
Never focuses, the plural of focus is foci.

Yes, there exist a category known as spirit foci, and IIRC they add dice to all rolls magically interacting with the appropriate spirits, including for purposes of controlling or banishing.

Remember that the focus must be designed for the specific type of spirit, and that buying a focus for a type of bug spirit might ... raise questions.

Also, free spirits are unique, and require individualized foci.
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Re:Magic Rules
« Reply #139 on: June 02, 2006, 09:43:56 AM »

Additionaly, I would think that any focus that is created for a free spirit would require part of that spirit in the same way as a material link would for ritual casting. So a focus for summoning earth elementals might contain some rare earth or a precious stone of some sort, whereas a hearth spirit might have some material from a house or building in it. Kind of like that.

That's not canon, just how I would do things.

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Re:Magic Rules
« Reply #140 on: June 02, 2006, 01:32:25 PM »

Notably, free spirits are not considered to fall under the blanket of "spirit types." So a Fire Elemental focus will not be able to help you bind a Free Fire Elemental. However, this isn't to say that you can't make a focus for manipulating a free spirit. You can make a focus for use in binding a free spirit by designing the focus with knowledge of the free spirit's True Name. Once designed, you can make the focus at whatever rating you designed it at and once bonded will allow you to add dice for tests to banish, bind or otherwise frag with that particular spirit.
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Re:Magic Rules
« Reply #141 on: June 04, 2006, 08:32:31 AM »

Yeah, just be really, REALLY carefull about doing this. Free spirits can be a real pain in the hoop, and are generally NOT bound by any recognized laws. The exception to this is Aztland and Amazonia (if I remember correctly). Anyway, they can be bad news if you frag with them, and will be VERY interested in why you are looking for their true name if they get wind of you doning it.

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Re:Magic Rules
« Reply #142 on: June 04, 2006, 04:21:52 PM »

Well, considering that you only have to find out the spirit's home metaplane and get a good look at the spirit itself, there's really not much they can do in the meantime.
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Re:Magic Rules
« Reply #143 on: June 05, 2006, 03:07:40 AM »

Depending on Force, that quest can get really nasty.

And in some cases, just finding the signature can be a problem.

Oh, and good luck questing for the True Name of a bug.
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Re:Magic Rules
« Reply #144 on: June 05, 2006, 05:27:28 AM »

I don't even want to think about what that metaplane would be like. Hasn't it been theorized that the bugs are coming here because it's already too crowded in their own metaplane??

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Re:Magic Rules
« Reply #145 on: June 05, 2006, 06:39:01 AM »

Something like that. I fail to understand how a metaphysical plane gets crowded, however...
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Re:Magic Rules
« Reply #146 on: June 05, 2006, 10:08:39 AM »

That's exactly what I thought. But there you go.

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Re:Magic Rules
« Reply #147 on: June 05, 2006, 05:05:09 PM »

My knowledge of the Earthdawn Invae is weak, so if someone with further ED knowledge would enlighten me as to whether there is a reference to the home plane of the Invae within Earthdawn Novels or Sourcebooks, it would be appreciated.
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Re:Magic Rules
« Reply #148 on: June 06, 2006, 05:36:35 AM »

Wait a mintue!!!! Mr. ShadowDawn himself is saying he isn't sure of an ED reference??? Hell, Retread, I should give you a karma point for that!! ;) Seriously though, how do you get to a point where your entire plane of existance is "too full"??? Sounds a bit fragged up.

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Re:Magic Rules
« Reply #149 on: June 06, 2006, 06:25:00 AM »

You know, I never did claim to be the end-all-be-all of Earthdawn... I made a few references and conjectures and you put me in that role. Keep that in mind, Gabe ;)
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